Shooting of Ta'Kiya Young

Neither do a lot of people in a lot of similar situations that don't end up shot.

They wanted to kill a black woman and get that tat. I hope the internal investigation checks these officers for gang tattoos.

Then prove it.

Don't need to prove anything to a race baiter, as i already pointed out each situation is different and not relevant to this woman making poor choices that resulted in her death.

According to an earlier post on this thread US police have killed 2,767 white folks since 2017. That's around 460 per year. Is there much need to sift through all of those cases or do you think it's safe to assume that some of those will be at least similar to this situation? Traffic stops seem to account for about 7% of police killings so that's approximately 32 white people killed during traffic stops annually. That would pretty much rule out the race issue for me.

To me the only real argument that can be made here is that the percentage of deaths is disproportionate with regards to race.

Which means you need to ignore that it's disproportionate with regards to gender and age (and other factors I am sure).

It also implies that there is a level of proportionate killing that you would be OK with?

This hasn't stopped you from inventing her having a gun out of whole cloth:

Where is the personal abuse, you are race baiting. All of your arguments are based on the fact that the cops are inherently racist and shot the woman cos she was black. You keep avoiding the fact she assaulted a cop with a car, claiming the cops made the situation up as an excuse to, as you put it, "execute" the woman because of the color of her skin, when in fact it had to do with the fact she used a car as a weapon.

You consistently failed to prove they are racist, and in fact you are not in a position to say without doubt they are, you base this soley that they are white cops who happened to shoot a black woman while again ignoring the facts.

I never said racism isn't an issue in the US, it can be an issue in a lot of places, however racism is not a factor here based on face value evidence of how the suspect and the cops acted. Until an investigation proves the cops are racist then they are entitled to the same presumption of innocence as everyone else is entitled to.

The fact your implicit bias is on display for everyone by your own writing sheds a light into how unreasonable you are, "gang at the precinct with tattoos for killing civilians", wow not everyone that has tattoos is racist, not every cop is racist yet you seem to think that white cops with tattoos and guns area gang out to execute black folks. Interesting point of view, I could almost see it as a racist point of view looking down on a demographic of people based on the color of their skin.

If we were to reference MLK jnr about judging people on the color of their character and not the color of their skin, this woman's character was seriously flawed, she played a stupid game and won the ultimate stupid prize and the people who will suffer are her child that will never be born, her family, her friends and those cops that were put in that position. Weirdly enough there are many many cops who go out to help people and dont want to take a life but do so where necessary.

Perhaps you should spend less time focusing on peoples skin color and learn to worry about the presented facts. If evidence was to be submitted down the road the cops were secret card carrying members of the KKK or some other hate group, then i might change my opinion of them, but for now they did a job most do not want to do, a very thankless job in a country where there is a lot of danger in doing that job.

I am not going to sift through 2,767 cases so we can just agree to disagree on that. I think at least some of those 2,767 deaths with be wrongful in one way or another. Just a hunch. Maybe every single one of these 2,767 white people deserved it, I do not know. I will say that I do not believe that the government or the police should be killing citizens at all but that is whole other debate.

I would say it's pretty interesting that you've developed this whole narrative around the officers just waiting for their opportunity to commit a racist murder but I assume you just think that when officers kill a white person this is all part of the job. The added charge of racism kind of means that we're almost letting officers walk away without too much scrutiny for all those white people they killed. They could kill mothers, fathers, sons and daughters and that's kind of fine if they are white but if they are not white then for sure that cop was motivated by racism. This feels very false to me.

I will ask you some direct questions and then will leave it there. You can reply or don't. The reason why I ask these is that you seem so focused in on the racism issue but we know that the police are killing plenty of white people too and we're kind of just ignoring that for the purposes of making an accusation of racism. I know we aren't saying "all those whites deserved it" because we honestly don't know if they did or did not.

To me the only real argument that can be made here is that the percentage of deaths is disproportionate with regards to race. Is your racism accusation based on this factor?

Are you equally outraged that these deaths are also disproportionate with regards to gender and age?

Is there a level of proportionate killing that you would be OK with?

If you think police killing citizens is NEVER justified then why focus on race at all?

But police aren't criminals...

Just gonna leave this here. No possible way this happens all across the country. And certainly not in the jurisdiction Ta'kiya was shot in.

Oh.

Bottom line pulling a gun on an unarmed shoplifter is an over the top response ,

Its called a joke. Humor generally great to defusing situations, sometimes does not work with those who are unreasonable.

So all whites got together and said "that MLK jrn guy needs to die" ?

Yes he had white supporters, Gene Roddenberry happened to be one such supporter. When Gene hired Nichelle Nichols for the role of Uhura, the studio execs were against the idea of a black woman in star trek cast on main crew roster. Gene wanted her there, they were also against George Takei due to his Japanese heritage.

Nichelle wanted to leave after the first season and gave Gene her notice, he asked her to think about it, some days later Nichelle met MLK at some event and he convinced her to stay on in Star Trek as Gene had provided an opportunity for black people most wouldn't get. She stayed and had that famous kiss with Shatner, the kiss between Kirk and Uhura nearly never happened as the studio execs were against it, obviously racists.

Shatner messed up multiple takes to keep the kiss in and as too much time was wasted the kiss stayed, the first televised interracial kiss. Star trek was the only white show MLK and his family would sit down and watch together and he appreciated the support Roddenberry gave to the black community along with the other cast members.

So yeah MLK has white support, you need to do your homework more.

You think anything about this situation is funny?

This old Back the Blue RWNJ line

These are bad apples from rotten trees.

Nowadays you take it to mean a few bad apples doesn't spoil the bunch, which is utterly bananas, propagated by a movement of orange buffoons, especially when the police department has a policy of letting rotten apples show off their gang signs.

You were making light of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.

Don't lie.