Russia - threadbanned users in OP

You really shudder to think what's been going on in all of the towns that Russia has been officially occupying since Feb 2022. It is clear that the Russian government has a contempt of Ukrainian culture and identity quite similar to what the Nazis had of Slavic peoples, if not the same.

For people still talking about negotiation, what is a suitable reparation for Russia to pay regarding the focused ethnic cleansing they have been perpetrating?

Their latest propaganda film has flopped

(from the Guardian feed:)

"The release of Russia’s first feature-length film about its invasion of Ukraine that premiered across the country on 17 August comes on the back of plans announced by the Russian authorities to boost the production of movies glorifying Moscow’s actions in Ukraine.

But The Witness is a box-office flop. Set to a budget of 200 million roubles (£1.5m), it has grossed less than 14 million roubles (£110,000) in its first two weeks, with viewers across the country reporting empty cinema halls.

In two hours of screen time, the film covers a wide spectrum of falsehoods that the Kremlin has used to justify its invasion of Ukraine. On the eve of the invasion, Vladimir Putin said Moscow had to “denazify” its neighbour, the lie that Ukraine was infiltrated by dangerous “Nazis”.

At one point, a Ukrainian commander is seen walking around with a copy of Mein Kampf, while other Ukrainian soldiers pledge their allegiance to Adolf Hitler. As a witness to these unspeakable horrors, Cohen sets out to tell the world the “truth” about the conflict."

We have an idea of what's been going on from reports.

But still there's an impression in the West you can't say or do anything in case it upsets a Russian.

What we have instead of is this boil the pot of Russians.

The whole Russian state deserves to be left in isolation for 50 years. Embassies in Europe and around the world closed down. Russian ex pats give a portion of salary to Ukrainian state and people.

And that still would be very light. They've taken thousands of lives while they still have theirs.

At least the Nobel committee was guilted into coming to their senses:

I'd agree with you - there needs to be severe consequences for Russian citizens abroad. And if they don't like it, back to the motherland to sort things out.

The International Olympic Committee would want to take notice and change it's tune very soon. No Russian or Belarussian athletes, no matter what flag of convenience they want to hide under.

The lack of them plus the time to do it also even if they have them they need to get them to where the break through happened

Gains are not measured in territory alone. The Russians have taken a huge hit.

The King of Sweden indicated he wouldnt be attending if Russia attended.

Agreed, it would take a seismic shift to completely remove support from all of the EU / NATO. But that won’t stop Russia’s supporters from doing what they can to try to frame Ukraine’s efforts failures and their goal as “impossible”. It’s the only hope they believe that they realistically have of turning the tide.

Russia & their fans would be better served contemplating a way to withdraw as soon as they can and wrangle the least punitive deal they can in exchange for being taking back in from the cold by the West. Mucking about with a smattering of old Soviet partners and with tin-pot dictators in The Sahel isn’t going to make up for what they’ve lost. Russia’s only realistic hope is to find a way out of this war with some clothes remaining on their back.

(on the tin pot dictators) I predict it's not going to go well for African countries that look to Russia or Wagner or whatever for help with their security and tell the US/French or the UN etc. to completely clear off.

I wonder if (eventually, over time) jihadis and assorted agents of chaos in some of these countries could be much more than Wagner/rebadged Russian mercenaries can handle - esp. given how busy Russia is right now.

The juntas/rulers could be left with no pants swimming trunks on and the tide gone out, as another clothing related saying goes.