Harassment- Kids Playing and Parents abusive behavior

Do nothing schools start back soon and with winter nights they won't be out as much. They are looking for arise from you don't give them one. If it's still and issue in November the talk to the local Gardai and see if they know the family or the kids. There is very little you can do in reality and you don't want to add fuel to the fire.

Are the kids actually playing within the boundary of your garden (inside the fence) or are they playing on the green area and running into your garden to collect stray balls?

from what i read te kids are playing on the common green & thats what they are entitled to do. OPs complaint appears to be the kids entering hos property to retrieve balls etc. Again understandable.

so im at a loss why the neighbor's think OP seeks to stop kids from playing where they are entitled to play.

OP the question is why do your neighbors think you want to stop the kids playing on that green. Can you advise what created that impression? Was it something said ? Did you ask kids to stop playing there? Did you ask parents to prevent it?

How do you know they climbed the fence?

Why did they climb over the fence? Was it to retrieve a ball?

And how is it racist?

I have to admit I'm finding this all quite fantastical as well.

I think you're being more than a little paranoid, OP.

OP If I understand the situation correctly you are in a row of houses, there is a road on front of your house and the green area is behind this road. So it seems like a common enough set up. Surely the balls are going into your neighbours gardens aswell.

Are balls constantly being fired at only your house? I find this hard to believe.

Is it such a hassle allowing someone into your garden to get a ball?

Is it a bungalow you are living in considering 3 of your bedrooms are facing this green. If its a 2 story I cant see your issue with the bedrooms.

Why would a tent across the road from your house annoy you so much?

Can you quote this law which prohibits video recording of public areas? dont think so

Not sure how you find it hard to believe someone may have their brats kicking balls at a persons house, sounds very much like the kind of thing petty cowards would have their brats do. While the OP may have unwittingly drawn the attention of the kind of pathetic people that would engage in this by approaching them and thereby highlighting something pathetic people latch onto, Id have suggested a more discreet solution, prickly plants that are hardy and low maintenance, some kind of fence or wall (that may now draw attention for vandalism). If the OP has evidence of someone coming onto an enclosed part of their property which sounds like trespassing and racist comments as well, I wouldnt hold back making a formal complaint, the latter is one of the few things that will get the Gardai off their arses. There is no reason for someone from a group of people who have been asked/told not to come onto your property to then climb a wall of a backgarden boundary. Report the person who made racist comments and likewise for someone getting into your backgarden, no business doing so, Id leave it for a while and disregard kids in the front garden, but consider doing improvements that dont make your garden so readily an extension of a public area.

Must have hit a nerve, getting tetchy, I didnt put words in your mouth, You said "there are laws around capturing video of public places" You make it sound like there is some law that limits recording but cant quote the law and directing meto google it tells me you know sfa. but still spouting GDPR. You brought it up, so lets hear what the laws are? What are they? There are no laws preventing a private individual putting security cameras on their home, GDPR is spouted as a reason for many things, has nothing to do with a private citizen recording their property for whatever reasons and happens to record a public area in,around or near it, the DPC may advise against it but if the OP has genuine concerns and isnt distributing the recordings (other than to the Gardai) then they havent done anything wrong. The OP at best only needs a small CCTV sticker inside their window highlighting that.

Can you please quote where I said it was prohibited?

Can you also please quote where I said there was a law against it?

I can wait.

In the meantime, the OP needs to be aware that if their CCTV cameras are persistently recording their neighbours and/or their kids activities in public areas as they have alluded to when they said they have "evidence of all of this", then they are leaving themselves open to a claim of harassment - from the neighbours.

I've already provided a screenshot from the ICCL.

Still waiting for you to come back and quote the post where I said it was prohibited.

But you can't, because I didn't say that.

That was your word.

Nor did I say anything about restrictions on installing CCTV cameras on private property or recording on private property, so again, please stop trying to put your words in my mouth.

I referred only to the OPs cameras recording their neighbours in public areas. And if the OPs cameras are doing that persistently (you might want to look up what that means) then they are open to a claim of harassment.

I hope that clears this up for you.

This is what you said:

The notice does not say that, it say if someone thinks it is harassment, they can report it.

In this case they (the neighbors) would be reporting their own bad behavior that is on record with the garda.

People who throw out GDPR for every little thing without understanding GDPR are the worst (and they often drag unrelated threads off topic while doing so).

Exactly.

When someone quotes the ICCL as a source, you can fairly safely ignore.

OP, if this is your first experience of racism here, you're doing well.

That is only part of what I said, and I stand over it.

Look, do your own research. Its all online.

If the OP's cameras are persistently recording their neighbours (or their neighbours kids) activities in public areas like on the green or on the road outside their boundary, they could face a claim of harassment.

There is a reason why cameras now come with the ability to set up motion zones and privacy zones. Protecting yourself from claims of invading your NEIGHBOURS privacy being the main one.

As for the alleged bad behaviour? I tend to believe that a lot of what is being claimed is paranoia on behalf of the OP.

Oh, this is rich, coming from one of the most frequently ignored posters on the forum! 😂

Honestly OP this is very hard to decipher.

Either what you are telling is completely true and as you are viewing it, in which case you've unfortunately bought in an awful area with awful people and need to move on ASAP as this will never be resolved.

Or some small issues with local kids have happened during the summer holidays, you reacted which then gave rise to further issues and now you are viewing everything people do in the estate as aimed at you when a lot of it might just be paranoia.

It sounds to me like the OP unwittingly antagonised their neighbours over the kids playing, and now they see everything the neighbours do through a haze of paranoia.

The neighbours are watching them? Stalking them? Recruiting other parents against them? Inviting teenagers from other estates to come over and torment them? Setting up a tent outside their house to watch them?

The one thing I could believe is racist language being used towards them, but other than that, I find this all very, very far-fetched.

There is also a lesson here. If you're going to be intolerant of children playing, then don't buy a house facing a green area.

Well it appears the OP purchased a house on front of a public green area but doesnt want anyone using this green area! Kids playing is what happens on green areas so Im not sure what the OP expected. I am trying to establish if the OP is the only resident with this issue - they mention that they are in a row of houses - surely this issue is an issue for their neighbours also or is the OP over reacting or being over sensitive. It does sound like the OP perhaps dealt with this situation very badly and it has now escalated.

However racist comments from neighbours is disgusting and should not be tolerated.

Being honest probably the best solution is for the OP to move to a country area- it does sound like they are not suited to living in an estate or a built up area.

@marauxsal you are handling this all wrong. Kids playing on a green is a good think. They will lose the odd ball and will go after it. It's one of their most prized possessions. They have no interest in harassing or stalking you, they just want to get back to playing football. You were advised to do nothing, kids are back to school this week, GAA and Soccer starts back up. There will be a natural drop off in activity. Please listen and take that advice.

We've put tent up on the green for the kids to play in, more than one parent has. They have better things to do that stalk and harrass you, they put big ten up for their kids to use, or to have a neighbourhood street party, lot as estates do this.

The advice still stands, take as step pack and let the winter cool everything down. You are the one escalating this. If you can't take a step back then it won't resolve itself you will only make it worse. At that point you be better for moving.

I don't think anyone will be able to give you the legal options you are hoping for but I'd agree with the earlier posters that the ball playing will stop over the next few weeks as the weather turns and the days get shorter, ignore the kids because no matter what happens you will never win against a bunch of brats.

Personally I would be looking to move rather than live around people that are openly racist but I understand that's not always an option. If the Gardaí tell you to report every racist incident then that's what you should do and hopefully people get whatever punishment they deserve.