Shooting of Ta'Kiya Young

Faugheen · 04-09-2023 8:56am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121066370#Comment_121066370

If it was so dangerous why didn’t the cop get out of the way?

He was able to move after he murdered her and the car was going at the same idle speed, before it crossed over the road towards the shop.

That cop but the public in danger by your logic because the car kept rolling. What a scumbag. He should be shot too.

You keep advocating for the murder of a woman who committed no crime though.

04-09-2023 9:08am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121066434#Comment_121066434

The moment she advanced that vehicle into a police officer, she committed a far worse crime than shoplifting.

You can keep repeating the lie that she was innocent of wrongdoing but it isn't fooling anyone.

crusd · 04-09-2023 9:43am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121066465#Comment_121066465

Your contention is completely undermined by the fact the car was idling in drive and the officer had ample opportunity to get out of the way. Attempted murder. Give over.

People do stupid things in panic. Standing in front of the them with gun pointed and finger on the trigger is not the way to deescalate.

Faugheen · 04-09-2023 9:44am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121066465#Comment_121066465

Do you believe that the public were put in danger by the cop murdering her and allowing the car to keep rolling across the car park? Yes or no answer please. Don’t run away like a coward like you usually do.

Also, you know exactly that the cops had no reason to demand her to get out of the car and no evidence to prove she did anything wrong. Stop calling me a liar when you’re nothing but a liar yourself about what has happened here.

crusd · 04-09-2023 9:47am

The stated policy of the police department in question:

The Blendon Township police department’s use of force policy states that officers should try to move away from an approaching vehicle instead of firing their weapons. An officer should only shoot when he or she “reasonably believes there are no other reasonable means available to avert the imminent threat of the vehicle, or if deadly force other than the vehicle is directed at the officer or others.

Taking two steps to the side being unreasonable of course

Gatling · 04-09-2023 9:52am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121066465#Comment_121066465

No she didn't

04-09-2023 9:53am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121066593#Comment_121066593

You can't have it both ways.

On the one hand you're arguing that the vehicle was moving slow, and on the other, arguing the vehicle posed a threat to the public.

If the vehicle moving posed a threat to the public, then the vehicle moving posed a threat to the officer too. He acted on that basis, as he could have been killed. He wasn't, but it wasn't beyond the realm of possibility for the officer to believe he was in imminent danger.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121066603#Comment_121066603

It wasn't an "approaching vehicle", as if it came from afar or from a distance.

The vehicle was already stationary, and she accelerated with an officer directly in front of the vehicle.

crusd · 04-09-2023 9:57am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121066629#Comment_121066629

Any and all credibility out the door. "accelerate". Give over. Do you really believe that the officer could "reasonably believe there are no other reasonable means available to avert the imminent threat of the vehicle, or if deadly force other than the vehicle is directed at the officer or others."?

Answer honestly now.

04-09-2023 9:58am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121066643#Comment_121066643

That passage does not refer to the situation we're talking about, as I have already explained.

Beefcake82 · 04-09-2023 9:59am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121066395#Comment_121066395

So all doctors, nurses, lawyers, engineers, bar staff must be gang members also by your logic. Give me a break, you are clutching at straws here, just because there may be some bad cops with tattoos does not mean all cops with tattoos are bad. However in this case the cops are not bad or racist as you claim.

I would love to see your actual evidence of these particular cops blatant racism, well where is your proof these cops are racist? Do you have any or are you going to continue equating a situation where a white cop shooting a black woman using a car as a weapon as racist?

Also how do you identify the non tattoo'd police gang members, birthmarks, haircuts, choice of drink ? 🤣

tesla_newbie · 04-09-2023 10:00am

The cop should be fired ,this is America so he won’t do jail time

an outrageous over the top reaction to a low rank crime , all he had to do was get out of the way and she could have been apprehended a little further away if she persisted in resisting arrest , he wasn’t plonked in the middle of a high speed motorway, he was in no danger from the car

I don’t focus on the race of the driver , it’s not necessary, regardless of her race, the lack of professionalism by the police officer warrants him never being allowed own a gun , let alone not being a cop anymore

Beefcake82 · 04-09-2023 10:03am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121066660#Comment_121066660

So she should have been allowed to speed away from lawful detainment which is a crime, and potentially endanger pedestrians or other road users with speeding and dangerous driving, more crimes?

Feisar · 04-09-2023 10:05am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121066603#Comment_121066603

This is it. IMVERYHO a gun shouldn't be used as a compliance tool and should only be used or even pulled to prevent immediate loss of life. The problem arises when a gun is pulled and the person calls the police officers bluff. Next step is pew pew. And when you've got hammer everything starts to look like a nail. The woman takes half of the blame though, failing to comply to orders from someone pointing a gun at her.

As to racism, doubt yer man got up that mornin' and though "gonna shoot me some darkies today". Having said that would he have shot a white person as quick? This then goes into stuff ingrained in us around implicit bias.

Did you smash it · 04-09-2023 10:06am

How many people of sane mind have an incident with police in any country and escalate it and think a year or so later …”you know that idea to escalate a situation with police was a really good idea. I’m glad I done that. It really improved my life”.

Gatling · 04-09-2023 10:08am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121066677#Comment_121066677

She wasn't speeding away, from a crime she didn't actually commit

04-09-2023 10:13am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121066705#Comment_121066705

Did she commit a crime by refusing to comply with officer requests, then proceeding to advance the vehicle to physically assault an officer in her attempt to flee the scene?

A very simple yes or no.

tesla_newbie · 04-09-2023 10:25am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121066677#Comment_121066677

Anyone can potentially be planning to do anything against other road users , we haven’t yet reached the stage of “ pre crime “

her offence was small, it didn’t warrant the action taken by Robocop here , it’s about displaying professionalism and the cop utterly failed

tesla_newbie · 04-09-2023 10:27am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121066695#Comment_121066695

I once had a Garda at my door about something , he was a power tripping type and thought he could barge in, he was blocked from doing so and we talked outside the house, was shooting me a reasonable response ?

tesla_newbie · 04-09-2023 10:31am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121066729#Comment_121066729

Spare us the theatrics , the cop wasn’t dealing with a Mexican cartel member , the lady may have had mental health issues or just been anxious , anxious people sometimes act irrational, now that doesn’t give her a pass to shoplift but what kind of messed up place believes shoplifters should be shot dead ?

i especially can’t believe conservatives would support such state overreach?

every crime situation is nuanced and unique , to a nail , the solution to every problem is a hammer

crusd · 04-09-2023 10:33am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121066649#Comment_121066649

Really? Come off it now. Just because you are fine with people being executed where no one is in any danger

Beasty · 04-09-2023 10:43am

It's very clear there are two sides to this "debate" and both sides are entrenched in thois views. All this is achieving is spats between posters who really should know better

People can see the video and make their own minds up

Thread closed, although I am sure some of you will find other threads to bicker in

Shooting of Ta'Kiya Young

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