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Saorview Updates - 2023

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  • Registered Users Posts: 796 ✭✭✭Mickey Mike


    Cula4 is to be made available in HD believe it or not on the SKY platform, transponder 3 amazing to say the least.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,470 ✭✭✭mackersdublin


    Cúla4 now showing video on LCN 18 with DOG in the top left-hand corner



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,452 ✭✭✭StreetLight


    TG4+1 now testing live timeshifted feed on LCN14 from 8pm.

    Post edited by StreetLight on


  • Registered Users Posts: 368 ✭✭doney84


    TG4+1 just came on at 8pm here (Clermont Carn).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 109 ✭✭Aidan McCarthy


    TG4 + 1 is available on saorview here in cork.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,029 ✭✭✭✭thesandeman


    Had to retune but it seems to be live everywhere now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 109 ✭✭Aidan McCarthy


    I bet virgin media one +1 will be next on saorview



  • Registered Users Posts: 465 ✭✭ITV2


    Is TG4+1 supposed to be a black screen? mine is since I tuned it in last week from Kippure.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,029 ✭✭✭✭thesandeman


    Was showing scheduled programmes the last couple of nights for me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,463 ✭✭✭✭muffler


    I didn't tune at all but I see it on the EPG and when I click on it the on screen message says it's starting on the 8/09/2023.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,567 ✭✭✭Gerry Wicklow


    Are you checking after 8:00 in the evening? Like BBC4 it co-shares the slot with Cúla4 depending on time of day.



  • Registered Users Posts: 465 ✭✭ITV2


    Thanks Gerry.. I wasn't aware of the sharing like BBC4 do.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,470 ✭✭✭mackersdublin


    Cúla4 officially starts at 4pm tomorrow

    And as @Gerry Wicklow said, the channel will timeshare with TG4 +1 on Saorview

    14 'TG4 +1' (20:00-06:00)

    18 'Cúla4' (06:00-20:00)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,584 ✭✭✭irishgeo


    It's a disgrace that VM is not HD.

    It should be made part of the broadcast licence that if they broadcast in HD on another service that it should be HD on soarview.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,818 ✭✭✭Tigerandahalf


    Is Cula4 on at the weekends?

    Didn't realise it timeshared with tg4+1 but right now I am getting 'Cláir ag tosú ag 20:00'.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,567 ✭✭✭Gerry Wicklow


    Have you both channels tuned in as separate entries? Cúla4 is on air until 20:00



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,818 ✭✭✭Tigerandahalf


    I did a full retune on the terrestrial and it seemed to come in as a separate entry. Then after renumbering and reordering the channels it had disappeared.

    If it is sharing would they not be on the same channel anyway?

    Edit. The Challenge channel also isn't there. Maybe I messed up something.

    Post edited by Tigerandahalf on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,567 ✭✭✭Gerry Wicklow


    It's similar to BBC4/Cbeebies. They have different EPG entries. If you select BBC4 during the day you may see and hear Cbeebies (and an error message) but will not get EPG data for it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 377 ✭✭egal


    What does cúla mean in English?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,363 ✭✭✭Glaceon


    I think it’s just a translation of “coolaboola”.



  • Registered Users Posts: 796 ✭✭✭Mickey Mike




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,815 ✭✭✭Charles Slane


    It's an abbreviation of cúlabúla, which is just Irish language slang for 'cool'. The children's strand on TG4 - or TnaG, as it was - was called Cúlabúla 4.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 377 ✭✭egal




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,048 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    Cúla = back ?

    My Irish is near non-existant.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,161 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Bit of a niche query this but here goes.

    I can see Cula4 and TG4+1 in the services list on my Tvheadend server, but the Kodi clients don't show them in channel list or EPG. Any time channels were added previously it "just worked".

    In Cavan there was a great fire / Judge McCarthy was sent to inquire / It would be a shame / If the nuns were to blame / So it had to be caused by a wire.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,404 ✭✭✭FRIENDO


    The TG4+1 is a very dark logo on the Saorview Connect EPG, however it lights up when you highlight it, not that important, just thought I'd mention



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,048 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    Have you mapped the services?

    Configuration - DVB inputs - Services ... highlight and Map



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,161 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Yeah, when I try that it goes to the Service Mapper tab and just sits there showing Mapped 0, Ignored 0, Failed 0


    In Cavan there was a great fire / Judge McCarthy was sent to inquire / It would be a shame / If the nuns were to blame / So it had to be caused by a wire.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,048 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    Check the options enabled in the Mapper page ....... untick them all and see if there is any change.

    You should also try the link for each channel - the one in the 'Play' column.

    You might get results if you first do a 'Force Scan' on the DVB-T Network.

    (My TG4+1 disappeared and the rescan brought it back)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,161 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Mapper options - unticked all, no change, forced scan, no change.

    The play button wants to save a playlist file - the TG4+1 one works when opened in VLC! (I expect the Cula4 one would work during the day too)

    Kodi still can't see either channel, though - closed and reopened and still no go, there is a "Scan for channels" button in Kodi under PVR and Live TV Settings but it says the PVR backend does not support scanning. 14 and 18 don't appear in the channels list or EPG and are ignored if I type in the numbers. I also tried clearing the channel list data in Kodi, still no go.

    In Cavan there was a great fire / Judge McCarthy was sent to inquire / It would be a shame / If the nuns were to blame / So it had to be caused by a wire.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,161 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    OK I deleted all services in TVheadend and added them again. I got the new channels, but I also got junk channels and had to hide them manually, never had to do that before. No EPG thus far either.

    Edit: PVR-Clear Data in Kodi got the EPG back.

    In Cavan there was a great fire / Judge McCarthy was sent to inquire / It would be a shame / If the nuns were to blame / So it had to be caused by a wire.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,048 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    I never 'map all' channels, but select those I want to have listed and map those.

    If you got a lot of 'junk channels' listed then I guess you mapped all, else I have no idea how they were listed.

    Do you also have Satellite channels in your setup?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,161 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    I'm pretty sure I mapped all initially, didn't get any junk channels. Didn't have to touch it in the intervening few years, channel changes 'just worked'. No, no satellite tuners on TVheadend. All's good now but I'll probably have forgotten what I did if/when new channels come along next 😁

    Just checked and Cula4 is now working, and TG4+1 not, as expected during the day. There is no caption card on Kodi on either of them when off the air, just blank screen, unlike RTE Jr and the other +1s.

    In Cavan there was a great fire / Judge McCarthy was sent to inquire / It would be a shame / If the nuns were to blame / So it had to be caused by a wire.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,048 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    Yeah the lack of an "Off Air" graphic threw me at first.

    I now use a bouquet file of my own to map the channels I want listed, in the order I want to see them. So a one-time set up of the channels and use the same file even when the hardware changes. I just enable that bouquet file and it automaps the contents. Over the years there have been a few channel changes which meant small edits to the file, and re-map.

    The only prerequisite I can recall is that I must select to use picons rather than icons, and then the info is provided for me to copy to the file.

    It is worth the effort because I have a lot of satellite channels in addition to the Saorview channels.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,161 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Yeah I was thinking that, there's not enough channels on Saorview alone to bother with bouquets really (have two Humax Foxsats still going for satellite...)

    Thanks for your help.

    In Cavan there was a great fire / Judge McCarthy was sent to inquire / It would be a shame / If the nuns were to blame / So it had to be caused by a wire.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,568 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    @Johnboy1951 Cúla4 comes from the TnaG days when the children's programme was call Culabula, meaning great or cool, but I am not sure if it comes from Irish Language slang or simply Hiberno-English.


    ______

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 236 ✭✭bronkobilly


    not many channels on saorview compared to freeview in the uk they put a new Gaelic channel on saorview and the flags go out freesat for me more choice of progammes. saorview for rte news only😏



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,161 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Great but this isn't a thread about what you like to watch. I think you'll find most Saorview users have satellite as well.

    In Cavan there was a great fire / Judge McCarthy was sent to inquire / It would be a shame / If the nuns were to blame / So it had to be caused by a wire.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,470 ✭✭✭mackersdublin


    The time on Mux 2 is over a minute faster than Mux 1 on Three Rock anyway

    Mux 1 seems to the correct time

    It's been like this for about a week or so



  • Registered Users Posts: 796 ✭✭✭Mickey Mike


    RTE is to close its RTE Aertel service on the 12/10/23. This is part of the cuts which was announced back in 2019, this is the start of many cuts to come, the Aertel service is one thing I will miss.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,161 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Every mention of that on RTE and other news websites shows the 80s Aertel not the one now.

    Does anyone working in the media actually use Saorview...?

    In Cavan there was a great fire / Judge McCarthy was sent to inquire / It would be a shame / If the nuns were to blame / So it had to be caused by a wire.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84,323 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    At a cost of €700k a year there's much better things RTÉ should be doing with money.



  • Registered Users Posts: 143 ✭✭thomasking22008


    Wonder is there any more new channel coming on soarview

    would like see add on euronews Irish film channel and documentary channel



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 20,034 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sam Russell


    I would like VM1 to go HD so I can watch the WC rugby.

    It is not possible to read the score on the Virgin channels - everything is so fuzzy. The comparison with RTE 2 is quite marked. HD is essential for sport.



  • Registered Users Posts: 143 ✭✭thomasking22008


    Yeah people rather watch on HD then standard screen I can’t see time on top right when I am in pub even big screen we decide switch over on itv hd better pic



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,161 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    ITV1 HD it is so! VM's loss.

    In Cavan there was a great fire / Judge McCarthy was sent to inquire / It would be a shame / If the nuns were to blame / So it had to be caused by a wire.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,610 ✭✭✭dublinman1990


    I have Dynamic settings enabled on my 32'' TV at the moment.

    There is some weird motion banding going on when I'm currently watching the Europa League match between Brighton Hove Albion and Marseille on VM2 on Saorview. It happens when the players and management are moving around the pitch. I bet this would happen when the Rugby WC is on there as well.

    Post edited by dublinman1990 on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 618 ✭✭✭TAFKAlawhec


    My own guess - given that Sky are rebranding Pick as Sky Mix later this month, they might take the opportunity to put the channel (in SD) on Saorview - this would then mirror on Saorview the three stations they have in Freeview in the UK (Pick/Sky Mix, Challenge & Sky News), but would depend on a number of factors including wherever Sky think it's worth it, and wherever 2RN believes it can fit in another SD station on either multiplex without significantly affecting the picture quality of the current broadcasts on the same multiplex. IIRC Mux 1 has 2 HD & 4 SD concurrent streams & Mux 2 has 1 HD & 7 SD concurrent streams. I can be pretty sure though that a third multiplex won't be fired up to simply add one additional SD or even HD channel, given the payment model for being on the platform (unless someone bungs 2RN ridiculous amounts of money for the privlige).

    As for the Virgin Media channels, IMO if they wanted to have any of their stations broadcast on HD on Saorview, they would have done it by now. Since the majority of viewers in the state can watch the channel in HD via a subscription service, and that only a small minority of viewers rely on their Saorview broadcasts, they've likely crunched the numbers and feel it isn't worth it financially and would prefer you to subscribe to their cable offering (or at least get their cut from Sky). Then again, I didn't think Sky News & Challenge would come on to Saorview when they did, so never say never.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,404 ✭✭✭FRIENDO


    I find Cinema mode is best for sports on standard digital channels, I also adjust the motion for fast moving sport scenes.

    Not ideal but it is an improvement on picture quality, I'm using a 70" screen



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,404 ✭✭✭FRIENDO


    Sky Mix would be a good addition to the Saorview platform, if it happens



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