Switching electric/gas providers (see first post for links)

BG supposed to be reducing the cost per unit of gas in the next few days. Sure they will do the same with electricity.

Trying to reply to CoBo still not working for me on mobile, don't know what's up with it.

That's fair enough, and it is an issue I have with them too, people are willingly signing up though. I've argued with a few who insisted prepay electricity is cheaper even when I showed them the prices so kinda feel like they are making their own bed on that one.

That's a very inefficient EV. But even so, that's 37k km per year. Not too many people do a lot more than that. For me it's more than enough to keep 2 EVs on the road. And remember the 5c rate is 67% cheaper than the Flogas community night rate that people in here were signing up for in their thousands. So the odd time charging at full day rate is fully compensated. And there is the €100 welcome bonus...

Switched to Flogas last week thanks to a recommendation on this thread before the link expired. Got a call from Energia offering a 20% discount to stay with them. When they announced their price cut I asked what my new day night rate would be with them. I was told "The 20% discount comes off our standard unit which will be decreasing on the 3rd October 2023. So to answer your question yes, however reduction approximate decrease is 15% which will give Day rate of 31.81 and Night 15.06 from 3rd of October 2023 including VAT, no change of standing charge."

Received an email today offering a free Google nest hub if I remained with them. I was tempted however upon speaking to an agent I was told that they have no Google Nests hubs left and that my rates would in fact be 36.4c and 17.3 cent respectively and that I had been given the wrong rates by email.

Might just continue with my move to Flogas.

Is that 36/17 inc vat or ex? I'm with Electric Ireland, and my rate is changing from 27.7 to 37.5... I'm on a smart meter but with 24-hour billing (servers and network gear running 24/7, so makes sense to have a 24-hour bill). That being said if the day rate is close to the same price I will be paying, but the night is cheaper, it might take something off the bill... Also, is there a peak charge?

No, there are still some limitations. Depending on your use case to consider. If you did drain the battery it would be 3 days before you could have it full again, or 4 days for some of the larger batteries.

Or if you're like me or my neighbours who mostly have 150km motorway commutes (I only do it twice a week) and were doing that 5 days a week you might not have enough left towards the end of the week especially in winter.

Those are of course exceptions but just things to consider might happen if someone is trying to maximise their savings. It can make a significant difference, even if you need one full charge per month off your EV rate that could be 600kwh per year

I too dumped my Day Night for a Regular Smart Meter.

I would advise anyone to do the maths, especially if you have a 6kWp+ array and / or a decent battery (maybe 10kW). Best FIT, lowest import from 2 - 5.

The important thing is to charge the car and battery FULLY each night, and therefore have everything generated after self use being exported.

Anyone get a better offer from BG than the increased ones last week?

I was trying to cover all the bases by saying 100km+. I've an MG4 that spends 50% of its life on motorways. my lifetime average is 16.2kw/100km. But my motorway average seems to be between 18-19 and once when there was a storm last month I did get 22.5kw/100km doing Galway to Mullingar.

Also at home my car tends to charge at 6.8kw/h sometimes 6.7kw/h, it's not that often I get 7.2kw/h. And I'm imagine someone doing long distances every day is going to do it on the motorway. So I guess conservatively I was saying you could be working with ~20kwh from a 3h charge so 100km+ covered all the bases.

Long story short none of it really matters, the people who kicked this off said they recently got an EV and wanted to know if they need to know anything if I'm remembering correctly. So I was just trying to make the simple point that you should make sure a 3 hour per night charging plan works for you before signing up to it.

I did an excel comparison of all the plans last week, and switched to energia, but some of the day/night/peak rates were coming within €50 over the course of a year based on my usage

Renewed our contract with Energia 3 or 4 months ago. We were only offered a 10% discount at the time. Has anyone left energia while still in contract and been offered a retention deal (i.e. 20% discount)? I'm tempted to start a move if there's a good chance of getting a retention discount.

Went to BGE on the dual fuel 33% discount on 20th October last year and just got the expected 38% discount on both, 6 weeks and 3 days out from end of contract.

I know its fairly early days in terms of these discounts and having been regularly reading the thread I haven't seen anyone on this offer be offered anything more than the 5% increase on top of previous discount. Has anyone on the OBS offer, who might have take it up early September last year, seen the discount offer increase as they get closer to contract end?

Also, when you renew does the new contract kick in straight away or does the new 12 months start from when your existing deal ends?

Thanks and yeah from what I have read here I haven't seen anything increase on that particular offer even closer to expiry.

It's that thing of being caught between trying to squeeze out an extra few percent or potentially lose the offer (they can of course pull it at anytime) so I think for me it's worth locking in for the certainty and hope the unit rates come down to help that bit more too!

Was just looking at my last BG electricity bill and the unit price is 44.21c before the 33% OBS discount

With this new renewal offer the unit price is 48.19c before the 33% renewal discount

Sneaky f*cks just adding a little increase on to the unit price when, if anything, the price should be coming down

The 44.21 is probably before vat at 9%. Putting vat onto that brings it up to 48.19!