Calling yourself British.

I experienced a different struggle with authenticity and identity. My family moved back to Ireland from England when I was in my teens and I could never shake the accusation from some quarters - you know the type - that I wasn’t really Irish despite having previously lived here from the ages of one to five. It was like trying to become a member of one of those posh London clubs - the black balls kept coming back every time I put my name forward. After years in Canada I came home and one of my classmates from university asked, “why didn’t you go back to your own country”, i.e. England. The same guy ended up spending a considerable time in England himself. I think it is one reason why I identified so much with the ‘Plastic Paddies’ on Irish soccer teams.

What part of my post was untruthful , or indeed inaccurate. And what part of it is not common knowledge by those who actuall study the matter?

I think you are slightly misrepresenting what went on, to dismiss the UK's part of it. Intentionally or not.

Polish contribution is mentioned in any book I've every read on it. Indeed we can link to UK online stories of the same. TBH they kept their work to themselves as Poland fell then, France. Also there was stuff that happened before Poland got in in on it. They got material from France originally. There was a also german spy and the commercial enigma machine.

Breaking German signals from all the world was a vast operation. Radio listening, stations, recording the signals, then it being processed and used. There was also another operation breaking the Japaneses code. The polish opened the door a crack. But the machines, changes, the codes changed. There was a vast operation dong this. One of the most expensive of the war. It wasn't just 3 people in Poland, just as it wasn't just alan Turnin on his own. Then there was the work of keeping this going as the Germans changed their codes continuously.

The British often tell their part of it. Because the story of Bletchley and the machines they built is a story in its own right.

We all are arguably British as we are from the British isles and have a very longer history here but the term has been tainted the past few centuries because of politics. When you think of the term British you think of a union flag, not Celtic culture.

Yeah, good analogy. I'd argue the Americans are big on the flag patriotism and small on loving their fellow compatriot. They also have a very patchy view of their own history and culture. Very good comparison.

Oh jaysus... no... You have that wrong... The British Isles is a term made up by them to claim ownership... theres little historical evidence to suggest it's ever been used in any context... The Romans sometimes refered to the Islands as Scottia... Ireland being Scottia Major & Scotland was Scottia Minor... The more appropriate term used these days is the Irish & British Archapeligo...

The migratory paths to both islands are quite different even though slightly intertwined... Ireland was largely inhabited by the Celts via the Iberian Peninsula, their origins being Middle Eastern then the migration path moved east from Ireland onwards to Wales, parts of England and Scotland... where as England was occupied mainly by Germanic tribes (anglos, saxons etc.) from Central Europe, pushing back some of the Celtic inhabitants... theres plenty more migration involved from various places, but this seems to be the main bulk of it...

BTW, DONT FECKIN' CALL ME BRITISH!!!

Theres a wealth of local cultural events and history in the UK. It's ingrained in their society and small towns and villages.

I think there's a lot more to it than trade.

They found generic linkage to Iberia not just in irish DNA but also animals and fauna. You'd have to say they don't look like Vikings or Norman's in certain parts of the country.

Are they really i formed on it? There's (culture) war whenever they want to teach the story or the founding fathers who owned slaves. I'd say it's just history but they prefer the sanitised Disney version of their history. History is always far more interesting than all good or all bad. But I don't claim to have much forst hand experience of the US.

Whay has loving got to do with patriotism? I'd say it's the very basis of patriotism. Love for the country and its people. How would you define patriotism without love?

That they HAVE a "disney" version implies "history" is popular with a mass audience.

Its inexplicable why anyone think US doesn't love its fellow patriots. Considering the efforts it goes to protect its people, and recover them.

Domestic issues of poverty are an entirely different issue.

You seem ignorant of just who many people are from mixed Irish/English families. They will have experienced both cultures and histories.

Irish narrative wasn't invented. It's well documented in English history. English love of rules, laws and bureaucracy means it's recorded and documentary with tedious and comprehensive detail.

It's quite weird to imply its invented.

Normans and Vikings were not immigrants, they were violent invaders.

In 928 AD, the Vikings massacred 1,000 people at Dunmore. Mainly women and children.

In Dublin the Vikings created Europe's largest slave market.

Vikings raids were terrifying, like the medieval equivalent of the Luftwaffe bombing cities. People hid in caves and towers to avoid being killed or sold or slavery.