Why some people think 9/11 was an inside job

The solid form of nano-thermite only existed in the WTC dust, they were not looking for it.

In Harrit's chemical study, the nanometer-sized particles of thermite were observed on the red/grey chips. You can't see these thermite particles with your eyes. Seeing it all requires laboratory-specialized equipment.

In order for nanothermite to ignite, it needs heat. Once the heat is there, it increases the temperature in an area. Towers have fire produce enough heat and temperature to ignite nanothermite.

That's why I showed just one of the purple flashes in the window of the South Tower.

See constant flashes of white light and purple haze surrounding the edge, and then you see an orange and red liquid leak in that window.

It is hard to capture the red/yellow leak with a screenshot, the video you see it

The same exact red/ yellow looking liquid leaks here outside the South Tower was happening about ten feet to the right in the window too.

Coincidence i doubt it.

Harrit found some unignited and some ignited chips in the dust. Some of the red/grey chips were not burned. Non-burned chips could explain why Ground Zero was like a chemical oven for months to put out and why there are reports of liquid steel in the rubble days after the 9/11 attack.

The demolition crews are tearing down a non-burning building. Would it be very silly now to use known methods at the Twin Towers when every news channel is watching it burn? The whole point of using nano-thermite is that it is small and undetectable to the human eye, and the only reason we know about it is that a chemical scientist from Denmark and some American chemical experts painstakingly went to work on it for days and weeks. Whoever did this most likely thought nobody would be this focused on finding it. It's not magic material; there is literally documentation on it online.

Another one. In light of all the noise about nanothermite's use at the twin towers, some R&D programs might be halted. According to a 2002 paper, the Department of Defense was researching nanothermite for use in weapons in the early 90s.  Second screenshot MIC is nanothermite. What Harrit claims he found in the WTC dust is a MICs

https://www.darksideofgravity.com/nanosolgels.pdf

This is a reasonable point you make, and I think it should be acknowledged.

This is the general idea in conspiracies.

In the case of 9/11, we have:

They spend billions and tons of resources and man power to plan, develop and implement a never before attempted style of demolition. But then they don't realise that this would be obviously a demolition to even untrained people.

They rope in thousands of experts from many countries and organisations to provide scientific support for their fake events. But then they release a report that's so incompetent that even untrained people with no scientific background can tell its false.

They fake a passport, but forget to make fake black boxes.

The conspiracy is all powerful and capable of anything when it's convenient to the conspiracy theory narrative.

Then when that isn't convenient, they can be extemely incompetent, lazy and careless.

It all depends on what is bring claimed at the time.

Theorists never tackle this issue as usually the various factoids are never considered at the same time, so contradictions and inconsistencies aren't apparent.

After the First Gulf War ended, the UN carried out weapons inspections inside Iraq for over a decade and cataloged everything they found. Western intelligence agencies were tasked with gathering evidence that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction after 9/11. The two sides were in constant conflict over the issue, which spilled into the media, the UN inspectors insisting that Iraq was free of such weapons and the Western intelligence agencies insisting that it was not.

It is an established finding that the Pentagon was fabricating aerial photography images, creating PowerPoint presentations, and presenting them to the American press, knowing all along that the images were fake. In the UN before the war, I think we all remember Colin Powell holding up the Anthrax bottle at the UN to scare the public and trigger anxiety in them. What you witnessed in 2003 was an Orwellian government gone rogue and people today seem to have forgotten it all. This government established concentration camps for Muslims, took people off the streets in the Middle East, with no trial, and tortured them in secretive black sites. They introduced the Patriot Act, which allowed people to be arrested and held for as long as they wanted without trial. This government also conducted warrantless wiretapping and surveillance of citizens, and even tried to pass laws that would make it illegal to criticize the war on terror. They even began releasing intelligence that Al Qaeda met with Iraqi officials to plan 9/11. There is no shame at all in releasing fake news to justify an illegal war? Why would anyone believe their narrative about September 11?

The 9/11 events took place on their watch, which makes it all the more significant that tall buildings made of steel collapsed for the first time in history.

. We had a bunch of people in charge on September 11 who are very capable of pretty much anything based on everything they did later. These very same leaders that wrote the paper Project for the New American Century

In 1997, the Project for the New American Century (PNAC) released a document called "Rebuilding America's Defenses" which outlined a vision for American foreign policy in the Middle East. It included plans for increased military engagement in the region, including the use of "offensive operations" to change the regimes in countries such as Iraq and Iran and others. One of the most alarming and significant overlooked facts is that they said that the new American century was not possible until America attacked in a manner similar to Pearl Harbor.

To answer your post further and just speculation since it is hard to understand the psychopath mind. Why would they not plant chemicals? My guess is probably very difficult because the UN had years of experience on the ground locating Iraq's programs of mass destruction and witnessing the dismantling and the destruction of it. Where would plant the chemical weapons exactly?

The reason couldn't drop some chemical weapons off somewhere i think and pretend it was found legitimately, the Iraqi chemical weapons used against Iran in '80s were American made. Chemical agents can be traced back to a point of origin and time. Handed over to Iraq in the 80s by Rumsfield to attack Iran. Of course sanctioned by the so-called democracy named the United States. This shows leaders of the US government's willingness to ignore international law and human rights when it suits its own interests.

Because 9/11 has all the hallmarks of an intelligence operation, I question it. Remember the narrative, bin Laden recruited 19 guys to hijack the planes. When the hijackers arrived in LA, Saudi intelligence officers met them and looked after their needs when they arrived. This suggests that 9/11 was not the result of a attack by a group of terrorists, but instead a coordinated intelligence operation. It also raises the question of who was really behind the attacks - and why.

Who told these spies to look after these men? Why did the head of Pakistan's ISIM, Mahmoud Ahmed send $100,000 to Mohammed Atta weeks before 9/11? They must know each other somehow, and yet there is not any information about that meeting or anything online that shows friendship. Whats even crazier is Mahmoud Ahmed wasn't in Pakistan on 9/11; he was in Washington having classified briefings with the CIA head Tenet and members of the Security Council at the Pentagon. Dont have to take my word these are established reports from official sources.

As it stands, this guy funded half the money for the 9/11 plane operation, and is meeting with leaders of the country was attacked. Where is the media coverage and trial for him? Assuming that the people controlling the hijackers are intelligence, what is the true reality behind the 9/11 attacks? The public operation that everyone saw on TV is not solved as clear as a sunny day.  

Seem to be very content in a world where deception and dishonesty seem to be the norm. You know this happened during the Iraq war, but somehow, if you were very trusting, the same people would not have lied to you about 9/11.

Debunkers have this fictitious version of how the US government operates. From the 1960s onward, there was the Pentagon paper leak, Watergate, the Gulf of Tonkin, the Iran Contra, the Iraq War, and many others, all genuine crimes directed on the orders of whoever was in the White House at that time. These events were all examples of the US government engaging in illegal and criminal activities.

What about all the South American CIA plots directed from the White House and the murders of civil leaders, a president, and his brother? They support dictatorial regimes and the assassination of people.

I tell you why 9/11 is not a far-fetched James Bond story because the blueprint for 9/11 was given to Robert McNamara and President Kennedy to carry out and blame Cuba. The Joint Chiefs, literally the United States military, sat down, in a room somewhere and came up with a complex plan to hijack planes and replace them with dummy ones. They planned to carry out bombings and terrorist attacks against US cities and kill hundreds of civilians, and they planned to bomb naval boats in the sea. We know it today as a classified briefing named Operation Northwoods. Kennedy refused and sacked some of the generals months later, and it is widely believed he did so because he believed part of his military had gone rogue on him and was acting recklessly.

Although Operation Northwoods was ultimately rejected, it demonstrated that there were rogue, powerful individuals within the government and military who were willing to consider extreme measures like 9/11 for political and economic gain. It is possible that some of these same-minded individuals, working in concert with powerful business interests, conspired to carry out the attacks on 9/11.

Neoconservatives are not a Jewish group. Catholics, Protestants, and evangelists are members of this group too.

Not true. Everything i wrote was factual.

Operation Northwoods was a proposed false flag operation that originated within the US Department of Defense of the United States government in 1962. The proposals called for CIA operatives to both stage and commit acts of terrorism against American military and civilian targets, blaming them on the Cuban government, and using it to justify a war against Cuba.

The plan was drafted by the Joint Chiefs of Staff, signed by Chairman Lyman Lemnitzer and sent to the Secretary of Defense. Although part of the US government's anti-communist Cuban Project, Operation Northwoods was never officially accepted; it was authorized by the Joint Chiefs of Staff, but then rejected by President Kennedy

Following presentation of the Northwoods plan, Kennedy removed Lemnitzer as Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff,

Even after General Lemnitzer lost his job as the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the Joint Chiefs still planned false-flag pretext operations at least into 1963. A different U.S. Department of Defense policy paper created in 1963 discussed a plan to make it appear that Cuba had attacked a member of the Organization of American States (OAS) so that the United States could retaliate.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods

Worth pointing out that even this far lower scale proposed plot that was rejected and never put into place eventually came out.

We're being asked to believe that a much more massive, more complex and more involved plot, decades in the making was kept completely secret with zero evidence leaking.

This action-packed set of false flags was authorized by those who commanded the US Army, Navy, and Air Force. It appears they thought all this was feasible in 1960, never mind 2001 (40 years later).

In this briefing, much of the action detail is similar to what some 9/11 researchers believe happened. Commercial planes were in the air and out of view, replaced with decoy planes, and passengers landed elsewhere (government employees). I am simply repeating what others have said about the 9/11 attack, and even the Pentagon thought it would work. Clearly, when you place bombs in cities, American civilians will die and be hurt. There are plans here for mock funerals, fake documentation, fake soldiers, and blowing up a US ship. Every crazy 9/11 conspiracy story is pretty much talked about. I can't post everything; take up the whole thread. It's stuff that debunkers think is impossible to do. If Kennedy had not been there in 1962, the plans may have been implemented without interference. There might not have been someone like Kennedy there to stop it in 2001.

Regardless of how you approach 9/11-controlled demolition terrorism, you must start with the myth that there was no state of terror. The 9/11 hijackers were clearly financed by Pakistan's ISI, along with some powerful Saudi Arabian and UAE backers. Why did the Bush administration cover up that involvement afterwards? Well, we know that the CIA would move operational funds through ISI and Saudi Arabian banks if they wanted to do something covertly in the Middle East. ISI would collect those funds and distribute the cash to terrorists or people in charge. When they armed the mujahideen against the Soviets, the ISI brought arms through Pakistan to the people they supported. ISI CIA and Saudi intelligence had a relationship of convenience

The American (West) myth that Bin Laden commanded and ran an isolated terrorist camp in Afghanistan and declared war on his own is bullshit. The Taliban had a partnership with the ISI, and all Islamic group terrorists, in one way or another, took orders from the ISI, from terrorist actions against India to other actions against Western targets.

Bin Laden did not train Mohammed Atta and others. It was an ISI-controlled terrorist named Omar Sheikh who recruited and trained Mohammed Atta and others in a remote border town close to Pakistan. Omar Sheikh, who ordered the attack on 9/11, was the one who forwarded the 100,000 dollars to Atta after being given orders to do so by General Mahmud. Mahmud and ATTA do not seem to have known each other, at least there is no record of it.

Especially strange is the fact that General Mahmud must have known the potential consequences of his actions. Doing terrorist activities on American soil. Did he make a secret arrangement with the CIA, or did he decide to declare war on the US? What does not make sense is that the United States does not appear to be all that interested in declaring Mahmud a terrorist and issuing an arrest warrant for his arrest. There is more interest in catching the lower and middle-tier guys than catching the masterminds of the attack.

Sheikh was alleged to have planned the kidnapping of Daniel Pearl and his murder. Pearl was investigating the CIA-ISI connection, Richard Reid's, and 9/11 and was probably executed to stop him. The order came from the ISI, most likely. He is now in prison in Pakistan; as the case was too high profile at the time, he had to be taken off the streets and protected that way from leaking information.

It's difficult to identify who did the demolitions because it's possible for another group to have gotten wind of all this and intervened with their own action. I do find it suspicious that the CIA had the names of the 9/11 hijackers years before the attack, and the attack still went ahead. Roadblocks seemed to be put in place to prevent the terrorists from being tracked down and questioned. At the very least, they let it happen. Letting it happen means that it could have made the terrorist attack worse than was originally planned. 

Don't forget that the argument is that the conspiracy was very small. So the 16 people who rigged the towers for an experimental demolition must have included all of these Saudi financiers along with Silverstien, a random BBC branch manager and a couple of Nazis.

 A second group likely got involved because they saw an opportunity to take advantage of the damage caused by the first group and capitalize on it.

The second group has specialized knowledge of nano-thermite technology.

I don't think the first group (hijackers) knows about the second group. I only speculate as to who might be behind the controlled demolition attack.

There was a conspiracy going on behind the scenes of 9/11, and another group was in some way involved. The suspicious behavior and the suspicious collapse all point to the fact that something was not right and that another group was likely involved.

OK so now the conspiracy has grown again.

Previously you'd been saying that the whole thing was planned and organised by one group. Now you say it was two groups doing two plots without knowledge of each other.

All for no reason.

Again it should be very apparent that you're just making stuff up on the spot and aren't uncovering anything.

You've dropped the numbers again.

Previously you were claiming it was 16 guys.

Halfing the numbers doesn't really help the credibility of the idea that these guys rigged 3 skyscrapers for a never attempted form of demolition using experimental explosives all in secret and all over a weekend.

That's impossible for 16 people.

It's doubly impossible for 8.

Especially when two of them have to be Silverstien and a BBC guy.

Care to take a break from the thread today, lads? Have some respect for the dead on their anniversary.