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Enoch Burke turns up to school again despite sacking - read OP before posting

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    #9632
    Lollipop95
    Registered Users Posts: 1,271 ✭✭✭Lollipop95


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121087886#Comment_121087886

    I can imagine that was the case. Then again, if they even attempted to interact with anyone, I'm sure most wouldn't want anything further to do with them after they opened their mouths and started ranting about their religious beliefs and whatever perceived injustice was annoying them on that particular day!



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    #9633
    francois
    Registered Users Posts: 3,455 ✭✭✭francois


    Oh well

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    #9634
    Shoog
    Registered Users Posts: 4,921 ✭✭✭Shoog


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121087933#Comment_121087933

    Mainly gay bashing.



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    #9635
    apache
    Registered Users Posts: 2,403 ✭✭✭apache


    He'll be straight into the cushy Progression unit like last time.



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    #9636
    aloyisious
    Registered Users Posts: 11,630 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    Coercive detention for an indefinite period until he purges his contempt, that was what the BL for the school asked for when addressing the court before Enoch was sent to prison last year.

    Incidentally, the judge who released Enoch from prison back then mentioned the cost to the state of keeping Enoch in prison while he was being paid by the Dept of Education at the same time.



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    #9637
    Princess Consuela Bananahammock
    Registered Users Posts: 33,329 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    It's like Groundhog day - whatvdate was the went in last year? Must be close.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



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    #9638
    Lucy8080
    Registered Users Posts: 1,980 ✭✭✭Lucy8080



    Christmas #NO.1- The AULD Triangle - by the Burke Family Choir! It will pay off any "Debts" accrued and embarrass the State!

    This whole schemozzle has been handled very badly. I'm starting to feel sorry for Enoch (and the inmates of the Joy) But, a cream pie into the face of Authority- well, the Irish get a kick out of that kinda stuff!

    There has to be some sort of hit song that comes out of all this, surely? If not, we've become too serious for our own good. State reaction to the Burkes is irritating me more than the Burkes.

    Let Enoch stand outside the school as long as he likes. The kids will measure their days in school by his presence.

    Grandad-" Arrah, I knew the lad when he was fresh faced"

    Grandchild (years later) - " Enoch looks like he is fading now grandpa"

    Grandad - "Arrah ,poor old Enoch-be nice to him-he made our school the most secure in the country. With himself guarding the gate - and the media guarding him and the gate-'twas the safest school in Ireland, loveen."



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    #9639
    Jim2007
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 10,247 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jim2007


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121088190#Comment_121088190

    Really? You think teaching the future citizens of the state that they too can disrespect the courts, ignore the laws they don’t want to follow and it’s all a bit of fun… Society can’t function like that.



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    #9640
    Str8outtaWuhan
    Registered Users Posts: 968 ✭✭✭Str8outtaWuhan


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121088193#Comment_121088193

    Or teaching them that sometimes one must stand firm in a non violent manner for one's beliefs and the idea of verbs mea cogitationes meae.



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    #9641
    Hangdogroad
    Registered Users Posts: 5,059 ✭✭✭Hangdogroad


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121088199#Comment_121088199

    The freak can stand firm in a jail cell. His creepy carry on has been indulged for far too long.



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    #9642
    breezy1985
    Registered Users Posts: 25,691 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121087890#Comment_121087890

    It pretty much was just them actually.



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    #9643
    Shoog
    Registered Users Posts: 4,921 ✭✭✭Shoog


    Contempt of court is the foundation on which the legal system is built. To allow continued breaches of a court order brings the law into disrepute. The principle of respect for the law is higher than Burke's own personal principles. He actively chose to breach the law rather than protest in a legal way. He should not be supported in his willful breaking of the law of contempt.



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    #9644
    Glaceon
    Registered Users Posts: 2,085 ✭✭✭Glaceon


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121088193#Comment_121088193

    I was thinking that last night. If they just left him there then what’s to stop some other creep hanging around a school (or anywhere else that they’re not wanted) and saying “sure Enoch can do it so why can’t I?”



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    #9645
    looksee
    Registered Users Posts: 28,346 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121088199#Comment_121088199

    But he didn't 'stand firm in a non-violent manner'. Guns, knives and fists are not the only forms of violence. If anyone who had a difference with their boss about anything, not just religious matters, got their way by roaring and shouting and disturbing everyone else's peace then life would be chaotic.

    I do agree he is brainwashed and the whole family needs help, but again, you can't impose 'help' on people who do not want it, not until they are seriously out of control. In his case you would be getting dangerously close to the re-education methods of repressive regimes.



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    #9646
    pixelburp
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,313 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Oddly , a long time in prison might just give Enoch the time and perspective to consider his lot, and whether his family and their teaching has been a net positive in his life. Much is said of recidivism but incarnation can allow cause some proper reflection on one's life. Enforced detachment grom the Burkes might help.

    Course, it could also make him 3 times the evangelical extremist so it's a bit Kill or Cure.



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    #9647
    aloyisious
    Registered Users Posts: 11,630 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121088190#Comment_121088190

    The problem is that Enoch is not. on the evidence given by the school, satisfied to stand in protest outside the gates contrary to the court order, he also enters the school grounds and the school buildings proper where the classrooms are as well. That entry is also against the court order which he was in receipt of.

    It's probably time that his case was given the attention of one particular high court judge and not whichever judge was sitting on the day the case came back before the high court.

    I'm not sure if a 40 day spell alone in the desert would allow him to wake up with a clearer vision of life's realities, except if he was given psychiatric assistance during his time in prison.



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    #9648
    Jim2007
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 10,247 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jim2007


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121088297#Comment_121088297

    Sadly I don't think there is much hope for the guy... According to Wiki, the guy went to college, got two degrees, one in history and politics. And through all that somehow managed to avoid having the edges knocked of him.



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    #9649
    Shoog
    Registered Users Posts: 4,921 ✭✭✭Shoog


    The Burke's are life as performance art.



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    #9650
    pixelburp
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,313 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121088305#Comment_121088305

    And thankfully we've moved on from that reductive and dismissive mentality that thinks words don't have the power to hurt, cause depression, suicidal thoughts at their worst.

    The world literally runs on words, and the power of what is said why it's said and how it's said. "Sticks and stones" is a garbage aphorism.

    And frankly think you're messing considering you just chided someone for saying "freak"



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    #9651
    Annasopra
    Registered Users Posts: 41,062 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121088305#Comment_121088305

    Carefully worded there calling it non violent. Its not a "peaceful protest" with all his shouting and screaming, the families shouting and screaming, his trespassing on school grounds.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #9652
    Annasopra
    Registered Users Posts: 41,062 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    It wouldn't surprise me if in 20 years Burke is still in Mountjoy refusing to purge contempt.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #9653
    lmao10
    Registered Users Posts: 1,133 ✭✭✭lmao10


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121088370#Comment_121088370

    I said it before, those kids are a different breed. I'd like to have been a fly on the wall during their upbringing. Enoch will be in and out of prison for life and it won't bother him at all.

    Due to the cost to the taxpayer, this whole set up of home schooling needs to be seriously looked at.



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    #9654
    Boggles
    Registered Users Posts: 40,002 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    The court heard the school had tried to raise matters with An Garda Síochána but were told by gardaí that it was a civil matter. 


    https://www.irishnews.com/news/republicofirelandnews/2023/06/03/news/teenager_arrested_over_leinster_house_trespass_-3322196/

    I presume this teenager will be suing the state for wrongful arrest so.



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    #9655
    Quin_Dub
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,444 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121088460#Comment_121088460

    It's a civil matter because he's technically still an employee there so the ability of the Gardai to remove him isn't tied to simple trespass etc.

    The sooner the hearing on his formal sacking takes place the better.

    Then, the school can get a barring order and him turning up at the school becomes a criminal matter and not just civil or contempt.



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    #9656
    PropJoe10
    Registered Users Posts: 5,298 ✭✭✭PropJoe10


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121087788#Comment_121087788

    I'm no mental health expert but there seems to be something very very wrong with that entire family.



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    #9657
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 76,133 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    It has already been stated numerous times in this thread butysome posters seemingly cannot resist trying to make this thread about transgenderism. It is about Burke, his behaviour and the consequences of that behaviour. Stick to the topic or expect to be threadbanned



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    #9658
    John arse
    Registered Users Posts: 1,918 ✭✭✭John arse


    I’d say they’d be great fun at a party?🥳🕺💃🍻🥂🍷



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    #9659
    Damien360
    Registered Users Posts: 6,462 ✭✭✭Damien360


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121088525#Comment_121088525

    If there was ever evidence that your childhood experiences from your parents shape you for the rest of your life, then this is it. Terrible shame because clearly they are all extremely intelligent. An awful legacy for a mother to leave her children.



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    #9660
    Ardent
    Registered Users Posts: 5,290 ✭✭✭Ardent


    There are only two explanations I see for his continued behaviour:

    1. He's batshit crazy
    2. This is all part of a grand master plan where he eventually and successfully sues the state for his "wrongful" incarcerations, to the tune of millions of euros.


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    #9661
    Shoog
    Registered Users Posts: 4,921 ✭✭✭Shoog


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121088647#Comment_121088647

    He is making a "moral stand" which is outside of normal behaviour.



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