Dairy Chitchat 4, an udder new thread.

As all the diesel used now is full excuse fuel if you can get receipts for diesel used in cars the technically you could write it off against farming expenses. Problem is there is only so many dub 100 euro cash receipts you can use.

However I think you have employee's. If you had a tank I. The yard and were selling it for 2-3c/ L less than the local stations you might convert a 1O+K euro farm expense into cash.

Problem is too many might know about it. Fall out with an employee and he might inform revenue authority

Yeah well I get straw off him already. Im

not too interested in becoming a tillage farmer but it’s one option if I want to hold onto my current cow numbers

Is the 30km limit looking like being implemented in the near future too had heard it mentioned before but nothing materialized I believe?

Would be a complete disaster for us our outfarm which we own is just about 30km probably a bit with it as the crow flies would bury us if it came in.

Farming is farming.

Just work out your meal requirement for the year or straw or whatever.

The pending budget, is his issue though, if he doesn't come up with a tillage scheme/dairy reduction scheme funded out of it, he has run out of road, and all the promises and rhetoric the past year out of him can finally be put to bed as bulls**t....

Don't think there'll be a retirement/ get out scheme. Milk supply is falling naturally itself and if a get out scheme comes in too many would exit.

If the truth be told tirlain are the only co-op a drastically reduced milk supply could sink because of debt levels, the other co-ops would probably consolidate and be fine.....

The quick win government could achieve by a reduction scheme re green-house gas emissions is the only reason it would go ahead and maybe try and buy a few votes for the next election...

Dairy farmers by our nature would loathe to get out of cows, even where age is a issue and no successor a carrot is needed to get a good % drop in cow numbers quickly, rather then natural wastage

was talking to a chap that is on the board of ICOS 3 wks ago... i raised the point of ICOS coming out against a funded retirement/cow reduction scheme.. he said there wont be a cow left in the country if it comes in.... definitely lads that are 60+ with no successor will pull the plug... and there are many others who are sick of dealing with co-ops... sick of the govt and EU and the stupid rules coming in every year... that will also pull the plug...

Im a first time poster and have been reading the thread.Im also a large dairy farmer my observation of whats going on in dairy is the general farming community hates dairy farmers.Dairy farmers have been putting beef sheep and tillage farmers of rented ground for years.ifa have helped this by farm partnerships where large farmer sons daughter can get entitlements as new entrant or partberships. Huge grants hav been given for past 10 years to make farms biggers.Grants were given for huge parlours and sheds on the basis of rented leaded land this land is now unaffordable and uneconomic to rent so just like all the suckler units built during celtic tiger on grants there will be some white elephants around the country soon.Dairy farmers wil get no support from fellow farmers look at last weeks protest iv seen more at a calf sale hardly goin to put fear into the government id say all that were ther were on salaries macra ifa icsa

The percentage of farmers in derogation is very small there mostly big greedy farmers who no one cares about there a nuisance everyone is sick of them were there any small farmers at last weeks protest

Thats a lousy response for your 2nd post ever .Plenty of small farmers will be effected ,lads milking 30 cows on 28 acres etc.

The big problem will be if level drops below the 220 .This is why the protesting is important where will the nitrate cuts stop

A come on any lad milking that number of cows on that acres is dreaming any blip in growth and hed be in trouble hed be better in a job an acres sheep beef

Are you not a big dairy farmer yourself ?

I may be wrong but most farmers in dero are small ones

from reading your posts here you’re setup would be typical of many dero farmers operating at a high stocking rate but doing so to cover buying land, infrastructure etc as many dero farmers are…not everyone was gifted with a massive block of land like the poster you replied to and never had to push on numbers to make things viable.

Many farmers inerited large farm like me im happy with my lot dont feel the need to keep 25 percent extra cows and get all worked up protesting and the likes if im told to reduce

No who is john gibbons

Sorry i dont understand

Who do they represent they look like a group of old age pensioners with only on guy in the middle id say hes in his 50s.

What's your opinion of Macra?

Are you pleased with the new president?

She hasn’t a clue. Was on RTE radio One during the week and couldn’t tell the presenter what effect it was going to have on a 100 cow farm

Why arevu worrying what other people are going to do with there land ive a neighbour who has 10 cattle on 70 acres

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why are you commenting on the dero so if it doesn’t affect you

The man who is stealing the full stops and commas from your posts.