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Electric Picnic 2024 **No Ticket Sales / Requests** - Waiting in line, terrible time, over familiar

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,416 ✭✭✭Fanirish


    People were apparently waving print outs and using them for mutiple vehicles



  • Registered Users Posts: 214 ✭✭saneman


    I would not be surprised at all. The campervan tickets have baffled me tbh. Recent years have had the cardboard hanger type ones, with a barcode that's a generic 1234567890 on all of them so scanning would be pointless. The only unique identifier is a 5 digit serial number, but that's it.

    It just seems very odd given the requirements for main entry tickets



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,416 ✭✭✭Fanirish


    I’d say the reckon that no one is going to drive a camper an down without proper ticket



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,529 ✭✭✭patch


    I heard an ad on Today FM thanking everyone for making it a great EP.

    Then saying that they can't wait for the 20th anniversary in 2024!

    So perhaps they DO have a very special act booked for next year...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,416 ✭✭✭Fanirish


    And again who Melvin thinks is special might not be special for people’s on here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,394 ✭✭✭Dreamweapon


    I hope its not the Foo Fighters. No need for a song & dance over their dull, meat and potatoes rock.

    Big on the all mouth and trousers scene



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,075 ✭✭✭Ricosruffneck




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,746 ✭✭✭SachaJ


    You know it'll be Mumford & Sons....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,054 ✭✭✭Seathrun66


    Seconded, an awful band I think. Rick Astley at the SD played a cover of one of their tracks that I seemed to be the only person not to recognise. I can’t grasp any of their stuff, it all seems so tuneless, mundane and repetitive. Akin for me to a Dermot Kennedy or Niall Horan booking.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,358 ✭✭✭scruff monkey
    Snarky Snark Snark




  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 15,354 Mod ✭✭✭✭Furious-Red


    Ah here you all need to leave the Foo Fighters alone 😂, The Foo's deserve better them EP. If RHCP are back in Europe would that not be like 3 years of touring the most recent album.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,416 ✭✭✭Fanirish


    Would be 3rd consecutive summer on that album run. Nothing scheduled after November but an august run with likes of reading/Leeds, pukkelpop, lowlands and EP may be a fitting end of it



  • Registered Users Posts: 115 ✭✭Dany Hitch


    Seconded. Guetta's DJ sets pre 2006 were epic but then he went all EDM and his productions were progressively awful. I'd take the three deck king that is Carl Cox over Monsieur Guetta. Would take Darren Emerson or Tall Paul too for Terminus as both are back at it. Underworld or Chems (new album out now) would draw a good crowd for the main stage.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,458 ✭✭✭Still Ill


    Gotta agree with this. One truly great song in Everlong and a couple of half decent tunes. Any time I've ever seen their gigs on tv he talks for almost as long as they actually play.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,529 ✭✭✭patch


    Foo Fighters have a few great songs. Excellent live. Dave Grohl has that special something that gets the crowd going. His banter is hilarious also.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,884 ✭✭✭rubick


    Judging by the direction Terminus took this year towards the hardcore techno end of the spectrum, neither of those you mentioned will be booked for there.

    Mills and Hauff looking pedestrian in comparison to this year's fare.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,358 ✭✭✭scruff monkey
    Snarky Snark Snark


    His banter is more pre-programmed than FM104s playlist. I really like the Foos but that got old a long time ago.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,054 ✭✭✭Seathrun66


    I’ve no issue with the man though, clearly a great guy given the response of fellow musicians, journalists and a friend who’s dealt with him.

    They’ll undoubtedly go down very well with most ticket-holders but there’ll be lots of alternative options. It’ll be frustrating for the 29th anniversary if FF, Hozier & Picture This headline. By all measures that’s pretty poor. Give us elderly rabble at least one decent headliner to cling on to.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,175 ✭✭✭endainoz


    Might be a chance of LCD to keep the older crowd happy? I think they'll be around this part of the world next summer. Might also be a chance for them for ATN if they could afford them, and Murphy did a DJ set there this year...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,416 ✭✭✭Fanirish


    Nothing in the choice of headliners in 2022 and 2023 would point to them booking LCD especially given the price of LCD live show.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,054 ✭✭✭Seathrun66


    I’d love that. I’d have thought that they’d be too expensive for ATN, their costs for personnel and equipment alone pushing them closer to the €1m mark than €500k. FR may not see them as having sufficient pulling power to outlay that much. I think Malahide their last gig here in 2016. Long overdue a return.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,054 ✭✭✭Seathrun66


    LCD in the same ballpark as Killers, Arctic Monkeys and Tame Impala.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,175 ✭✭✭endainoz


    Also given its the 20th anniversary and all, LCD have quite the history with EP, assume FR will actually care about such a thing. I badly need to see them again though! That extra 5k attendees would easily cover LCDs cost aswell 😃



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,416 ✭✭✭Fanirish


    Haha very optimistic on that front.

    audience wise not same ballpark.

    Any recent lcd show in last few years I was at skewed at least a decade older than audience at the killers, artics, tame impala at EP.

    the “youth” don’t seem to have the same affection for lcd as they do for recent 2022/2023.

    LCD fee is just about manageable for ATN and no problem for EP.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,213 ✭✭✭FionnK86


    Just bumping this, I've been onto Ticketmaster and they've passed me onto FR who threw me back onto Ticketmaster. They said they 'might' be removed but I won't be able to find out when...



  • Registered Users Posts: 115 ✭✭Dany Hitch


    This year's fare was too heavy for my liking although I can see why 9x9 was booked. They could do a themed night over the weekend (Friday: House, Saturday: Trance, Sunday: Techno) and bring in some of those (older) big names for a fraction of the price and mix it up with the younger blood. A bit of tweaking with the bookings and curation and you could have a hit with Terminus.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,884 ✭✭✭rubick


    Trance can f*ck off to be quite honest. There's Transmission for that all weekend.

    Not sure another evening of house music is required when there's already so much of it around all weekend.

    Job one would be to have Terminus properly used. The only time I've seen it full was in the first year for Amilie Lens.

    It lies empty for most of the weekend.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,648 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    EP have a post festival questionnaire on their page. Some interesting acts mentioned.

    Gigs '24 - Ben Ottewell and Ian Ball (Gomez), The Jesus & Mary Chain, The Smashing Pumpkins/Weezer, Pearl Jam, Green Day, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic, Pixies, Ride, Therapy?, Public Service Broadcasting, IDLES(x2), And So I Watch You From Afar

    Gigs '25 - Orbital, Supergrass



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,358 ✭✭✭scruff monkey
    Snarky Snark Snark


    good mix on it but surely the headliners are already locked.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,416 ✭✭✭Fanirish


    A very weird list, bunch of them like Coldplay and Taylor already doing massive shows here next year.

    and I doubt Stevie wonder going to play stradbally anytime soon



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,083 ✭✭✭Genghis


    Haven't seen the questionnaire, but I guess they are using sample names to profile the audience, rather than book those guests. Who knows, maybe they'll feed it all to an AI engine with access to band availability and the AI engine will curate 2024 ;)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 907 ✭✭✭dav09


    It's very strange but honestly but a really good list of acts in general, out of the list of acts they mentioned 75% of them seem to be very decent quality acts that cater for a range of music tastes which is actually surprising. Also no mention of the usual Coronas, Hudson Taylor, Gavin James which is fantastic to see, unless its just a given every year. I would say Stevie Wonder, Taylor Swift, etc are all to help gauge the type of demographic that attend vs actually booking them due to fee.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,054 ✭✭✭Seathrun66


    You have any demographic figures for those shows or just anecdotal feelings? You’ve historically given entirely wrong figures for UK and Irish festival attendance and seemed to lack a statistical grasp on the demographics of festivals until provided with such information.

    LCD sold out Malahide on their last visit and can fill an EP headline slot with ease as they have twice before. Eight visits to the fest by Murphy and Mahoney in some or other guise, more of a history there than any act since the fest’s inception and FR would be negligent to disregard that.

    Their fee according to their booking agency is between $1m and $1.5m (€930k to €1.4m). ATN have no possibility whatsoever of affording that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,054 ✭✭✭Seathrun66


    Puzzling with Terminus given the effort made with it. Even Jeff Mills had it only 2/3 full.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,416 ✭✭✭Fanirish


    I was at those shows. I can see with my own eyes who is attending those acts.

    i haven’t given wrong attendance figures for anything. I’ve either given the figures from planning applications or from media reports.

    i have a solid grasp of who attends festivals as I’ve been to pretty much all European festivals on multiple occasions.

    you have given wrong information in this post about LCD booking fee.

    you’ve posted a fake number from a scam website who don’t even represent Lcd soundsystem. So you have zero credibility.

    UTA represent lcd in America and WME represent them everywhere else. Neither of these would publicly disclose the booking fee for an act and if you a knew about festival bookings or even concert bookings there is not a set fee. Festivals submit offers to the respective agents and there is then discussions about it including availability, routing, package deals etc.

    LCD fee is not between €1m and €1.5m. Malahide wouldn’t have been feasible at that fee. 20,000 x €70 = €1.4m.

    lcd soundsystem fee for malahide would of been in the €300,000 - €400,000 range.

    this is within the range of ATN as they have paid that for Nick Cave in recent years.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 403 ✭✭Paddy2012


    I just seen this, I wonder if their inclusion confirms MBV are touring again next year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 403 ✭✭Paddy2012


    To me he's always been an incredible drummer but a painfully mediocre singer songwriter, have to give them props for their longevity though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,695 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    I miss the Little Big Tent from a while back, we need an IDM electronic tent, not necessarily Aphex, bigger stages for him but acts like Nathan Fake, Max Cooper, James Holden, Four Tet, Luke Vibert, Kruder and Dorfmiester, Thievery Corporation, Nightmares on Wax, Actress and some of the lesser known Warp and Rephlex acts.

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



  • Registered Users Posts: 80 ✭✭fortywinks86


    Looks like Picture This might be struggling to sell out couple nights in the 3Arena at the moment going by the remaining availability although looks like they've sold well for their SSE Arena gigs. Hopefully this might affect their prospects as potential headliners for future festivals. I know it's been discussed before but I'm surprised they made it as support headliner last year. Going by their monthly steaming numbers they have just over 1million whereas most of the recent headliners are 10mil plus. I know their popular in Ireland but they seem to be second tier act at best!



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  • Registered Users Posts: 115 ✭✭Dany Hitch


    Agreed, haven't seen Terminus used properly since it started. It wouldn't be difficult to line-up local talent to play from noon onwards on Saturday and Sunday and have the heavy hitters begin from 18:00. I was at Amelie Lens when she rocked the place: some set. I'd like to see her return and Adam Beyer. B2B would be ideal for a Friday night.

    Disagree with you on Trance. Bryan Kearney and Ferry Corsten would be good bookings but hard to see them attracting 8,000 in to fill that tent.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,038 ✭✭✭boomdocker




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,648 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    Does anyone else recall a similar questionnaire last year? It seems familiar. I'd be interested to see how many of the bands on last years list actually appeared at the festival this year.

    Gigs '24 - Ben Ottewell and Ian Ball (Gomez), The Jesus & Mary Chain, The Smashing Pumpkins/Weezer, Pearl Jam, Green Day, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic, Pixies, Ride, Therapy?, Public Service Broadcasting, IDLES(x2), And So I Watch You From Afar

    Gigs '25 - Orbital, Supergrass



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,083 ✭✭✭Genghis


    Yep I remember it. Can't remember the exact details but it seemed familiar.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,054 ✭✭✭Seathrun66


    Anecdotal evidence is worthless. You’re particularly unreliable given your previous wild guesswork on the demographics for EP and other festivals (EP 2023 thread) where you had to be corrected by several posters and shown empirical and journalistic research.

    Most posters here attend festivals in Ireland and abroad. What they don’t do is use feelings and conjecture to assess the age demographics for events. Produce some research and I’ll take you seriously.

    In terms of LCD Soundsystem the fee is the only realistic one quoted online and for such an enterprise yore paying close to seven figures for them to headline. You’ve also disingenuously misconstrued the figures which were clearly in Dollars with the Euros in brackets. At the lower rate of €930k at Malahide that’s a €470k gain for the promoter. Take off costs and they’re clearing €150-€200k. A run of gigs like that at Malahide, Marlay, Kilmainham, etc and a profitable Summer is to be had.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 993 ✭✭✭crl84


    Where are you seeing their fee listed? Please provide the link.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,054 ✭✭✭Seathrun66




  • Registered Users Posts: 993 ✭✭✭crl84


    I don't know what CTA, and you haven't provided a link.


    As farnirish says, and as per LCD's website, UTA and WME represent them:

    https://lcdsoundsystem.com/#contactinfo

    booking in north america:

    samantha kirby yoh samantha.kirbyyoh@unitedtalent.com

    booking ex-n.a.:

    david levy william morris agency dlevy@wmeentertainment.com



    I can only assume you got the figures from this website, which is the first one that pops up when you google "lcd soundsystem fee":

    https://www.celebritytalent.net/sampletalent/11301/lcd-soundsystem/

    which as farnirish also says, is a fake website from someone who doesn't represent them.

    It's incredibly unlikely that an agent will freely list a fee (set or otherwise) for a major act on their website.


    So please provide an actual link, because it seems like you're just making an absolute tit of yourself.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,054 ✭✭✭Seathrun66


    Perhaps a crude internal FR attempt to establish age demographic (and more rudimentary assumptions based on choices) without conducting an expensive poll akin to Statista in the UK. An age judgement being made on the acts you choose ie My Bloody Valentine implies you were in your twenties in the 90s. The pool last year and this has no other discernible purpose as they ain’t booking most (if any) of those acts.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,175 ✭✭✭endainoz


    Calm it down please folks, no need for all the posturing. Some here might think they know more than others, but really we all know shag all, it's just speculation. Personally I'd love to see LCD in Ireland and again and frankly couldn't give two fcuks about how much FR will have to pay for them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,648 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    Gigs '24 - Ben Ottewell and Ian Ball (Gomez), The Jesus & Mary Chain, The Smashing Pumpkins/Weezer, Pearl Jam, Green Day, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic, Pixies, Ride, Therapy?, Public Service Broadcasting, IDLES(x2), And So I Watch You From Afar

    Gigs '25 - Orbital, Supergrass



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