Cult of Stephen Kenny

That is definitely not true. He was picking younger players from the very start. It wasn't all at once but it was immediate You can have a different opinion but making up stuff to back your argument doesn't help. Idah started his first NL game in charge and Idah, Connolly and Molumby started the next. Idah and Connolly would have played in the playoff were it not for covid too.

Also as I mentioned I was at the Denmark game and we played well but battered them is definitely overselling it. We drew 1-1 with a late equaliser. Which was the style at the time.

This is a fair take , when we compare ourselves to Greece , Scotland etc we have to remember we are total minnows compared to them in a football sense when you look at academies , professional leagues , clubs in champions league, football industry and basically every single facet of the game . We are a million miles behind even countries like those .

Btw I still think Kenny has had his time and it’s been a failure with no tangible progression but we have to realise exactly where we are in the pecking order . Greece and Scotland put us to absolute shame as football countries

Also the vast amounts of money that is needed to make things better is just not there , we are trying to build a couple of very modest stadiums in Tallaght and Dalymount for the past 20 years and still aren’t done .

Rugby and GAA have the private investors absolutely sewn up

Read the comment Iv said Kenny’s time is up and he has failed

And yes I’d make those excuses for any Irish manager

Only thing is he considers himself irish. Cant find the interview but he says he'd rather 1 cap for ireland thank 50 for england.

I'd keep Kenny til end of campaign. He's brought alto of players through. He has made mistakes but I like him and the new culture. A good midfielder in that team and they'd do great

If we beat Greece at home and gilbratar and who knows against the Dutch we could finish well.

I care , 😂

Stats, again :

Games : 36

Won : 10

Drawn :11

Lost : 15

Win % : 27.78

Loss % : 41.67

If he was in charge of a PL team with those stats, he’s avoiding relegation by the skin of his teeth.

Kenny Won 41 points out of 108……67 points dropped.

Ryan Tubridy is available for 350,000 a year. He ticks a lot of boxes, successful in Ireland, experience of working with youth and has a loyal following.

Not really true at all, Southgate got the job on a technicality and not on his managerial experience or quality (because he is shite). He was not good in the PL and Carsley has done better with the youth team. As an England fan I don’t think Carsley would get the England job next, but it depends what he wants. England youth teams are stable and have been pumping out talent. Ireland definitely isn’t. Also Steve Cooper is now a PL manager and he came from England u18s

What’s the point in keeping a guy who has a 100% failure record in qualifying for international tournaments ?

When the going gets tough, he doesn’t have the wherewithal to get the team qualified.

its not as simplistic as saying he just doesn’t have the players… because he makes rank bad awful decisions tactically and regards to his team selection…… so adding that to not having the best talent at his disposal and we are fûcked.

The hallmark of a great manager / leader, is one who even with average resources at their disposal, they can still enable their team to succeed and still make their goal.

Kenny hasn’t done that, nor will he….

I'm not sure if you understand how building for the future would work but your list of starting teams proves his point. He had a player at or around 20 in every team bar one and then as time went on the number of younger players started increasing and this trend continued up to now.

I think when Kenny said that he made a bit of a fool out of himself as it was only after qualification was a write off that he all of a sudden claims it was meant to be a write off and he was building for 2024.

As for the Denmark game in 2019 you don't batter someone if you draw 1-1 with them. Shots on goal mean nothing if they don't go in unfortunately for us. We had enough chances to draw or beat Netherlands the other night and to draw with France in the home game but we didn't. Is it not results you are after?

Stephen Kenny's Dundalk on Al Jazeera TV in 2016

Richard Keys also interviewed Kenny on Bein Sport around this time

Then there were some quotes from Mircea Lucescu after Dundalk had played against his Zenit team in the Europa League group stage :

'The best team is Dundalk, I cannot compare them with the others. They can win at home against AZ and it is easy to not lose a match against Maccabi Tel Aviv.'

I love how you blame the players performances for Kerr and Trapp failures but then blame Kenny alone for not beating the Dutch (Shane Duffy's defensive boo boos spring to mind, was the lazy pressing in the second half Kenny's or the player's fault?) So it's a myth that Kerr was a failure and in the same sentence you say he made bizarre substitutions?You really post some stupid tripe in this thread, can you genuinely not see how hypocritical you are? We finished 4th in the group, namely because Kerr had us sit on two leads against Israel, like he always did, he was a crap manager. Look at the team he wasted too, a total travesty. Anyway, is football a results business or not? You keep contradicting yourself.

I get that you hate Kenny, but bigging up the Kerr and Trapp eras, as if to say it's an example of how we should be playing is typical clueless nonsense from you. At least be consistent with the barometer that you judge managers with.

Also, Mccarthy battering Denmark 1-1 genuinely made me laugh.