Cult of Stephen Kenny

Eh no. According to Kenny fans, it was wrong for previous managers to bemoan the strength of our players but now that Kenny turned out to be a flop, the players are free game for criticism. Even Kenny was bemused about how any of us could dare think we could compete in a group with Serbia and Portugal. No wonder we were beaten before a ball was kicked in this group.

Exactly, we need to search but there are plenty of good, exiting managers out there. I know De Zerbi was with Shaktar but I was unaware of him before Brighton. There are managers like that out there. We need to enlist the help of actual experts in our search and we could unearth a gem. Think outside the box. An Ange Postecoglou, there are good young managers in Germany and Holland. We have exciting players that would be attractive for many managers. We're far better than 55th in the World. That's where Kenny has dragged us and you're right, he'd struggle to get a job anywhere else apart from the LOI.

Some managers in Seria A would be on around what Kenny has been getting. I was using De Zerbi as an example because there are many more like him out there. I'm not an expert on European or World football, we need to enlist experts to search for us. We need to think outside the UK and Ireland.

If we were to stick within the UK and Ireland, obviously Carsley is there but checking if Anthony Barry wants to step up would be an option. Unlikely to get him but McKenna at Ipswich. Then we could also approach a Benitez or Wenger type.

I'd rather we go with the European and Worldwide search but there definitely are options, don't you worry about that. We won't be stuck with Kenny for much longer.

Always excuses lad. Never actual solutions. We took a punt on an unknown outside of ireland and it has been a horror show.

I can see the loi lads giving any new manager from the continent an awful time.

You've no solutions either! People saying oh we'll find a DeZerbi or an Ange somewhere in Europe isn't much of a solution either.

I just think we're f**ked no matter what we do with this team, they're sh*te.

A squad full of Premier League and upper championship players with one of the most exciting strikers in World football emerging. That is very attractive and I'm sure we can up the wages for the right man. We increased Kenny's wages and he was diabolical.

We could easily be more competitive at least under a new manager. We've been losing far too many qualifiers and Nations League matches under Kenny - a good coach could certainly move us up any group table and see us picking up points that we shouldn't keep dropping.

I just hope Kenny supporters cop themselves on and support the new man. Kenny failed miserably, they need to get over it and let the new man try to recover from the mess he's caused.

I Do.

Approach Carlsey for start. I think we might be surprised. The reason Southgate got the job was because Big Sam done a Big Sam on it. I can't see Carlsey getting the England job.

Chris Wilder - 55 now. No reason why he might not want a challenge in international football. He will get us organised and hard to beat but will also be able to get us playing some sort of direct football. Not just passing for the sake of it.

Dean smith - See above

Chris Hughton - See above

Philip Cocu

Brian Barry Murphy- Head of Man City Elie development u23s

Javi Gracia - Ok was on PL wages. But ask the question. Possibly another person who would like a challenge.

There are dozens of manager on the continent then that you could look at.

The narrative that is trying to be spun by certain quarters that there are no alternatives and we should stick with this failing regime is an agenda. I know certain posters and LOI lads will sneer at the above names but who would they go for?

Whoever gets the job it's a risk. There's no guarantee anyone works out. De Zerbi got the boot earlier in his career. What I was saying is there are others like him out there. Why should we limit ourselves to one market? I really hope the new FAI are more open to thinking outside the box. Of course, there are huge doubts about that.

I really think the negativity around our squad brought on by the Kenny era is what really needs to change. How dare we think we should come close to qualifying for major tournaments, how dare we think we can attract a decent manager, all this nonsense. The last 3 years have been absolute poison. Whoever the new manager is has a lot to fight against but we can only hope he can bring some positivity.

This is the result of Kenny's tenure.

You can't lose so many games against everyone and keep pointing to the future in mumbled interviews. "But we eh.....it was a eh tough......the french eh tony....ye know are eh good team like eh.........." " We eh have capped eh 20 players and eh that eh bodes well for the eh tony the future you know."

A **** laughable scenario and situation to find ourselves. Run down the players all we want but run down the manager more. He is out of his depth. He looks like he has never been in charge of a team before.

Is it too much to ask for a manager and backroom team with a modicum of tactical nous?

Kenny, Keith Andrews and whoever else is there failed entirely to notice that the Dutch had changed formation at halftime the other day, didn't make any subs or positual changes until after the 70th minute when the Dutch were ahead and cruising.

Imagine being tactically outclassed by Ronald f*cking Koeman 🙄

That's the most recent example, there have been plenty similar over the past three years (think of the Greeks absolutely shredding us down the wings in the game in Athens)

This is one of my main problems with Kenny. He seems to be a poor reader of the game and makes terrible substitutions. I think part of the reason we keep on losing is because his game management skills are so inadequate.

It's also down to the coaches the manager brings in to assist them.

Kenny's best set of results as Ireland manager came when Anthony Barry as his assistant and coach.

Anthony Barry was quickly poached by Belguim when it became clear he was the football brains behind Ireland, He then moved on to coach Portugal for the World Cup and is now assistant manager at Munich.

Scotland's Steve Clarke was a highly respected coach who worked under top class managers and big football personalities and got on with the coaching at Newcaslte (Guillt) Chelsea (Jose) West Ham (Zola) Liverpool (Dalglish) befoe going into management himself in the Championship and Scottish premier league with bang average teams before taking over Scotland.

Kenny has shown his in game coaching match awareness is nowhere near a level needed good coaches have that.

There are plenty of possible candidates. The FAI need to be careful and not get fleeced though. We'll need to be looking at the Championship and mid European leagues for a candidate. The French League, Belgian League Dutch League etc.

I still think Carsley should be approached first. If that's not going to happen you then start looking elsewhere. Possibly Javi Gracia.

I can see zero point in leaving SK there until the end of this group. Things are going to be toxic now that he knows and the players know he is going. It's brainless stuff to leave this regime in place.