Drivers behaviour on roads

JizzBeans · 14-09-2023 8:16pm #1

Have any other EV drivers observed an increase in obnoxious behavior from ICE car drivers?

Parking in charging spots: Frequently seeing charge points used as regular parking spots by ice drivers, garages, hotels, on street etc, not to mention mother & baby and disabled spaces. I would be in favor of clamping in these cases.

Tailgating: This is a constant issue for me. When I slow down to 80kph on the motorway to preserve battery on long journeys, I am always dangerously tailgated by multiple drivers, leading me to my next point.

General Manners: I am frequently flashed or beeped by tailgaters if I am not going, what they think, is fast enough. Just overtake or or leave earlier, its tough sh1t if you have a problem. ICE car drivers, imo, have anger issues and road rage, have got several angry shouts when stopped at lights.

The same drivers will complain and abuse cyclists, but then behave like lunatics themselves. Its probably a good thing the speed limits are going to change.

14-09-2023 8:19pm

Parking in Charging spots - never seen it

Tailgating - well if youre deciding to do 80kph on a 120kph motorway it's you that needs to decide if the motorway is really for you and your battery car.

General Manners - well keep left, indicate when changing lanes and try and keep up - other than that I don't see any issues with battery cars or diesel/petrol either.

User1998 · 14-09-2023 8:24pm

What do you expect when your doing 40 under the limit? If your going to drive that slow, stay left and it shouldn’t happen as much.

Gumbo · 14-09-2023 8:26pm

80 on a motorway! Idiotic!

Lewis_Benson · 14-09-2023 8:26pm

No, I Don't think they have.

Atlantic Dawn · 14-09-2023 8:27pm

80kph on the motorway will slow down trucks and other commercial vehicles leading to more pollution and more expensive goods in our shops all because you want to save 2c a year.

dmigsy · 14-09-2023 8:27pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058313814/have-ice-car-drivers-become-the-proverbial-cyclists-on-the-road

Getting frequent flashes, beeps and abuse indicates that you might not be the wonderful road user you think yourself to be.

Jim_Hodge · 14-09-2023 8:30pm

I haven't noticed the parking issue. Doing 80 on a motorway is giving EV drivers a bad name. I can see 'bad manners' if you're hogging a lane at 80 to be honest and even driving an EV behind you I'd get teed off too.

Your general attitude towards ICE drivers is not something I'd like to see creep into motoring.

the_amazing_raisin · 14-09-2023 8:33pm

Bit offensive against cyclists isn't it? I've never been tailgated by a cyclist at 80km/h on the motorway or seen one parked at a charger

While I agree with the other posters that it's extremely frustrating being stuck behind someone doing 80 on a motorway, that also doesn't excuse dangerous behaviour

If you want to go faster than the car in front, don't do silly things like tailgating or flashing your lights, maintain a safe distance and overtake when you can

Regarding general road manners of ICE drivers, dunno if they're particularly worse than EV drivers. I've had a few incidents where another EV driver was acting the clown in my vicinity

Also haven't seen as many chargers getting blocked. There's a few disaster zones, generally where the chargers are in an advantageous parking space, but I think a lot of people are starting to get the message

General advice, where you find people, expect to find a$$holes. You can put them in an EV or ICE car (or a bike) and they'll still be an a$$hole

ted1 · 14-09-2023 8:36pm

80kmh on a motorway is dangerous and ridiculous……

stay off them

Clareman · 14-09-2023 8:42pm

It could be argued that 80kmh on a motorway is against the rules of the road as it is up to every driver on the motorway to

"Drive at a safe and legal speed that will not interfere with traffic already on the motorway. " (source)

Wildly Boaring · 14-09-2023 8:49pm

What lane you in on motowhen getting tailgated?

amdaley28 · 14-09-2023 8:52pm

Motorways have several lanes so that faster drivers can overtake the slower ones 😏

There will always be idiots behind the wheel whether it's an Ice or Ev car.

Jim_Hodge · 14-09-2023 8:53pm

Not many drivers will tailgate if they can simply overtake. The OP is obviously impeding traffic flow and at 80 that includes trucks unable to avail of the overtaking lane.

JizzBeans · 14-09-2023 8:59pm

Woah, unbelievable amount excuse making here. There is nothing wrong with going slower on the motorway, and yes I always stay left. The responsibility is on any driver to maintain a safe distance from the car in front, not me to drive faster.

Sorry but are any of you actually EV drivers?

elperello · 14-09-2023 9:00pm

There is no reason for bad feeling between ICE and EV drivers.

Just look at all the car vs. cyclist threads to see where we shouldn't go.

JizzBeans · 14-09-2023 9:05pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121111010#Comment_121111010

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121111045#Comment_121111045

Why are you excusing tailgating? Its not my responsibility to speed up for impatient ICE drivers

Jim_Hodge · 14-09-2023 9:06pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121111223#Comment_121111223

What do trucks or buses do when they are stuck at 80 behind you on a two lane motorway? You have a responsibility too. Drives won't tailgate by choice, so they must be unable to overtake you and you are clearly inhibiting traffic flow. EVs can go above 80 and not lose significant range. Will you go lights off in winter to protect the battery as well?

AMKC · 14-09-2023 9:07pm

If they are tailgating you just turn on your rear fog lights and they will drop back if they do not wanted to be blinded by them unless they have got some kind of super eye lol.

I do not think 80kph on the motorway is dangerous if its on the progress lane and not the overtaking Lane. Tractors drive on the Motorway and there top speed is 50kph. Also Trucks and buses are not supposed to go over 80kph.

Jim_Hodge · 14-09-2023 9:09pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121111256#Comment_121111256

He'd have to slow to 70 with the fogs on, to compensate for the impact on the battery. 😀

JizzBeans · 14-09-2023 9:14pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121111251#Comment_121111251

Sorry, but did you just say drivers wont tailgate by choice????? Its obviously by choice and its obnoxious. Are you an ICE driver by any chance?

Jim_Hodge · 14-09-2023 9:22pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121111289#Comment_121111289

That's what I'm saying. Drivers will, by choice, overtake rather than tailgate. This is regardless of ICE or EV. In fact nothing in this has to do with a distinction between ICE and EV. It's to do with reactions to your driving style. Other motorists don't know you're only doing 80 to maximise range any more than somebody nursing an ICE to maximise fuel consumption. You need to take some responsibility for your own actions. I drive ICE and EV as it happens. I most certainly don't drive the EV as if it were incapable of carrying out the task of getting me along a motorway at a reasonable speed as it was designed to do. You're driving like you're on an R regional road.

JizzBeans · 14-09-2023 9:23pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121111152#Comment_121111152

How is driving at a safe speed arguably more dangerous than tailgating? (which by definition, blatantly ignores the 2 second rule)

blackbox · 14-09-2023 9:23pm

From time to time I drive on the motorway when towing a trailer and am therefore limited to 80km/hr.

I have never had any problems with people tailgating me. I always keep to the left lane.

It always surprises me how many other people are also driving slowly.

N.B. there are ar**holes driving all sorts of vehicles.

AMKC · 14-09-2023 9:26pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121111267#Comment_121111267

Lol not at all. They are probably l.E.D.s so 75 should do it lol.

JizzBeans · 14-09-2023 9:27pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121111320#Comment_121111320

No, your suggesting I am causing other drivers to tailgate.

Correction, other drivers choose to tailgate. My speed has nothing to do with it. Its always ICE drivers I have this issue with

14-09-2023 9:29pm

As an EV driver myself, you're an absolute idiot for driving at 80km/h on a motorway. I'd tailgate you myself if you pulled that stunt in front of me.

JizzBeans · 14-09-2023 9:39pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121111353#Comment_121111353

This post reminds me of guys who got really upset & angry at the beginning of lock down when they found out the pubs were closing and couldn't live without pints.

elperello · 14-09-2023 9:54pm

M7 yesterday guy in Ford Ranger doing about 65-70.

Holding a length of white wavin on the roof with his right hand.

Eejits drive all sorts of vehicles.

donkey balls · 14-09-2023 9:58pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121111256#Comment_121111256

Trucks use to be limited to 80kph and coaches to 90kph, This has increased to 90 for trucks and 100kph for coaches, I a past life I would have to overtake a car doing 60kph and the minute I be out in the outside lane the car would speed up to 80kph forcing me back in to the LHS lane and then slow back down to 60kph.

coolbeans · 14-09-2023 10:04pm

Why do you feel the need to do 80km/h on the motorway anyway OP? I stay at the limit 120 and most of my driving is on the motorway. If EV driving meant driving that slowly then I'd have never made the switch.

dubrov · 14-09-2023 10:07pm

IMO, driving at 80km on a motorway is dangerous and puts other drivers at risk.

No one would tailgate if they can easily overtake which suggests something else is going on that the OP isn't aware of.

I'm not sure what the anti-cyclist stuff is about either

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000 · 14-09-2023 10:12pm

"Tailgating: This is a constant issue for me. When I slow down to 80kph on the motorway to preserve battery on long journeys, I am always dangerously tailgated by multiple drivers, leading me to my next point."

Sorry what, you do 80kph on a fuckin motorway. Honestly you need to be reported to the Gardai for driving in such a dangerous manner. You've no idea how bloody dangerous you are on the road if you think thats OK.

If people are constantly flashing and beeping at you did you ever think for a second that YOU'RE the problem? The absolute bang of entitlement off you.

Montage of Feck · 14-09-2023 10:16pm

EV vs ICE is just childish mega drive vs NES stuff, if you see problems in everything you are the problem, specifically not maintaining adequate progress on the motorway.

waterwelly · 14-09-2023 10:17pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121111344#Comment_121111344

Why would an EV driver not tailgate?

How do PHEV drivers manage? Tailgate when she's on petrol but when on battery stay back?

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000 · 14-09-2023 10:20pm

Going too sow on a motorway leaves you open to a fine and prosecution. If your awesome EV cant keep up with traffic maybe get off the motorway. You're an accident waiting to happen.

An Ri rua · 14-09-2023 10:27pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058313814/have-ice-car-drivers-become-the-proverbial-cyclists-on-the-road

Whats causing your range anxiety? Have you bought a vehicle thats not fit for your purposes?

I used to drive to work daily on M7 at 85mph to work. And 50mph home, to conserve fuel when not on a deadline. Apart from the occasional slowcoach in the passing lane, I never encountered any problems. In the slow lane, unless both lanes have filled up and its moving above 50mph (80kmh, as I reckon you may be evangelical about such things, being so clearly insecure about driving electric), then I've almost never experienced anyone tailgating when they could pass. If they do, its because of your speed, right or wrong, not because they've deftly analysed the air quality behind your wheels and deduced that you are driving one of them foreign modern yokes.

Mph/kmh/petrol/diesel/lpg/electric... people are too busy and don't care.

I drove a big engine lpg for years. Granted, I rarely drove slow. But when I did, on petrol, as was my wont, I do not recall any sinister moments.

Its vital to go with the flow of traffic, if at all possible. To purposely not do so is uncivil.

magicbastarder · 14-09-2023 10:27pm

i once hit 80km/h on my bicycle. is that the proverbial cyclist mentioned in the thread title?

i didn't do it on a motorway though.

moonage · 14-09-2023 10:45pm

If you're going to be doing 50mph on the motorway trade in your glorified milk float and buy a proper car.

graememk · 14-09-2023 10:46pm

My initial reaction to the 80km/h was that's very slow on a motorway.

For me, for a car it is.

But.

The speed limit for a car/jeep/pickup and trailer is 80km/h. Are they going too slow? They cannot legally go any faster

Although on a motorway, there should be enough time and space in the other lane to overtake.

Tailgating is not a response to a slow driver for whatever reason. Nor is flashing lights, beeping or any of that.

Tractors, that have a 50k gearbox are allowed on a motorway, just, as they can maintain 50km/h.. have fun tailgating them.. they won't see you if they have a trailer!

GSBellew · 14-09-2023 10:59pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058313814/have-ice-car-drivers-become-the-proverbial-cyclists-on-the-road

I met an idiot like you trying to overtake a truck on the M1 whilst sticking to 80kmph, the truck eventually slowed to allow the degenerate overtake.

Do not know nor care if it was an EV or not, the driver should not be on a Motorway & if you want to dawdle along you really should go on the alternative routes that are available to you which would be more appropriate for your chosen rate of progress, I'm not sure you quite realise how dangerous it is to have a mobile roadblock travelling at 2/3rds of the normal speed, tractors have flashing lights to warn people of their slow moving nature.

User1998 · 15-09-2023 4:46am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121111344#Comment_121111344

Stop trying to blame ICE drivers, the reason you think it’s just ICE drivers is because 95% of the cars on the road are ICE, and because EV drivers have to drive slow on motorways

Padraig Mor · 15-09-2023 6:35am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121111767#Comment_121111767

Eh....EV drivers don't "have to" drive slow on the motorway - that's just a few selfish idiots like the OP who prioritise their economy over other road users' safety.

15-09-2023 7:02am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121111223#Comment_121111223

That is not true, the driver is obliged to drive at an appropriate speed to the condition and not to interfer with other road users ability to do the same. Driving to slowly is dangerous and you can be fined for it.

Seth Brundle · 15-09-2023 7:15am

Motorways by design have good sightlines and multiple lanes making overtaking safer. So based on these facts, how exactly is doing 80km/h the dangerous activity some are making out to be. How exactly is that driver putting themselves in danger as has been claimed? Are people alleging that drivers coming up behind will not see the 80km/h driver ahead and plough into the back of them? Are they alleging that drivers will choose to overtake them meaning a lane change? Or what because no matter what way I think about it, any risk is introduced by the passing driver so they are the one to be addressed

fits · 15-09-2023 7:28am

Regularly drive on motorway towing at 80km/hr. It is in no way an unsafe speed on the motorway so I don’t know what people’s beef is.

Fieldsman · 15-09-2023 7:33am

I think the OP isn't getting much support here with her slow driving I just hope you keep on the left lane as you'll infuriate other drivers if not. I suggest you avoid using motorways and you say you get flashed at traffic lights well are you one of those who seem to wait for the green light to get greener

magicbastarder · 15-09-2023 7:37am

they're required to stay in the left lane anyway (unless they're moving faster than the car they're passing). they're not required to drive above 80.

Hurrache · 15-09-2023 8:02am

If people come upon any vehicle doing 80 on a motorway and think it's dangerous they might want to check their own driving if they can't handle the situation.

liamog · 15-09-2023 8:11am

I don't see any difference in behaviour of drivers based on the drivetrain of either my vehicle or theirs. The only time I'm tailgated is when driving at 30km/h in a 30 zone.

As for being flashed at OP, are you sure you know how to use your car and aren't just driving with DRL's on. I see a lot of newer cars who forget to turn on their lights.

Stephenc66 · 15-09-2023 8:11am

Like a few other posters here I regularly tow a trailer at 80kmh on the motorway the legal limit for a vehicle towing a trailer. Unlike the OP I can't say I have been tailgated or abused by other drivers.

As for those saying 80Kmh is dangerous on the motorway are you really that unaware of the road ahead that you can't observe a slower moving vehicle and act accordingly to overtake. Its only 10kmh slower than a lorry is limited to.

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