Switching electric/gas providers (see first post for links)

Hardly worth wondering. If a price for something goes lower than the one you're paying then it's obviously worth it.

The current reductions are still a good bit higher than the Flogas offer but if someone wants to throw a 40% discount around I'm sure they'll get people.

So... Now im confused... Old Flogas rate on their site is 35 ex vat... taking 30% of that give some 24c ex vat, which is 50 quid a month cheaper for me from my current rate of 28c on EI (renewal price would be 36c and 134 extra a month). Contract is up end of September, but is that rate correct? I would have to pay an extra 100 quid for October, but would then be saving 50 a month after... Is my math correct?

Anyone else totally flummoxed in trying to select an energy provider?

Between varying 'standing' charges, fixed and variable unit rates, smart and non smart plans, and drip feed announcements of intentions to reduce prices in the future, you would need the skills of an SQL Database programmer to work out what you should do now.

I just want to identify the best value for gas and electric for my circumstances, but it is turning in to a exercise akin to planning an investment on the stock exchange. The time and level of research required is ridiculous and unfair, particularly for older people.

What is the regulator doing to protect the consumer from the increasingly complex smoke and mirrors price tactics that are being forced upon us? (that is a rhetorical question, I know the CRU is doing fcuk all).

? They are not required to reduce rates. They can also take all the time they want

Maybe they don't want new customers and are happy to retain the ones they have. My renewal offer from them at 33% discount still works out cheaper for my usage than any other provider with all recent price decreases factored in.

Well said,totally agree with everything you've said there.

My dual fuel contract with SSE is up on 17th,was going to switch to energia....then saw Flogas announcement.....but only applies to variable rates??!. It's hugely confusing.

Flogas were always sneaky, at one stage they were easily the highest priced provider with both standing charges and unit rates. I'm staying with them as I was lucky enough to get the BWG plan, as soon as it pays me to move I'll be gone.

The 30% is off their standard prices. It's all smoke & mirrors on their part as far as I can see.

This is the way for anyone on the Community or BWG plan. Wait and see and don't be jumping to conclusions just yet as to what the rates will be.

I wouldn't put all my faith in those sites either. I have put the same query info into different CRU approved switch sites and have received different results claiming to be the best option.

If the plans are so complicated that it needs a commercially biased service to try and explain them for you, then the system is not fair for the consumer. They are brokers selling deals, they are not the independent sources of honest info that they purport to be, or that the CRU endorses.

Their mere requirement for existence, proves my point.

Also the fact I always thought this thread was for bargains and giving advice to people who cannot muddle through the smoke and mirrors tactics used and older members who don't know the abbreviated terms used here and online but some posters only want to answer the questions they feel are important to the thread hence why a number of people have just stopped giving advice due to the nitpicking here.

Should change the name of this thread -CONFUSED.com!!!🤔🤔🤔

I had a BGE rep around today. Told him I'd heard of several other BGE customers being offered 30-something % for renewals, he was adamant they weren't offering those discounts, that no energy company was currently offering more than 20% discount. He could still only offer me the 15% discount, same as online. It's so frustrating knowing that others are being offered higher discounts. He did offer us one free day of elec per week, either Sat or Sun 9am-5pm, up to 100kwh per month.