PK@rte.ie (again). The All New (Patrick Kielty) Late Late Show Thread

No death, cancer, promotions, mild child has a problem, don't ye think Dublin is a great place and did ye try the Guinness, and all that kinda shite

They won't change the channel as a lot of them love to have a moan.

Id agree with that list. It's an insult to the viewer. There must be plenty of successful/interesting irish people at home and abroad to mix with a few international guests.

The McClean nonsense about Britain is so fooking tiring.

Chap has been seeking attention from it years now. James, nobody gives a fook. It’s 2023, mate.

Ireland and England are far more connected and “together” than ever. Embrace it..

In fairness hard to see who the target audience is for TLLS- even if PK is better than Tubridy, which he is already, so much has changed over the 61 years since TLLS started including:

1. Technology
2. Hollywood greats of the 20th century are all dead
3. issues of the day can and are discussed ad naueum in multiple different medium

Not just TLLS, there’s probably many shows that are just shadows of their former glory- Kielty is grand, many times better than tubs, but what’s left for him to do and who exactly will watch it each week?

Didn't watch the last 10mins or so, but overall, very flat. Liked the sticking it to Duffy at the start, and while he was initially very nervous, he gradually got somewhat more natural with the RTE reference jokes helping. The touchy-feely questioning with some of the guests right beside him though was awkward.

Guests were absolutely shocking though and was barely above that whiff of the whomever was down the canteen that afternoon. Bringing out the horrendous Tiernan put him on a losing path straight away. Less said about the "music" the better. But these two issues have been a problem for the LLS for donkeys and unlikely to change anytime soon - fully expect a repeat from at least one of those on last night this season. It's little more than background noise on a Friday night nowadays when you can even be bothered at the best of times.

Less death, but still a couple reminders thankfully not expanded upon - that said, on one occasion with McAleese, he demonstrated he knew when not to say anything and just gestured to her as she summed up her spot - that was probably the most natural host moment on the LLS in years. Then ruined it by not stopping those other two clowns, whoever they are, from jabbering like monkeys.

What I will say is he won't get by on RTE scandal, Oireachtas, barter comments every week, so enjoy them while you got them last night. Lot of room for improvement. The show is as much an issue as the presenters.

That was generally a function of how bad the show was rather than the quality of the thread.

So, basically what they've done is, convert the old Saturday Night Show (O'Connor, D'Arcy. Tubridy of old) and made it into the Late Late Show.

I'm not saying thats a bad thing, its a creative decision and RTÉ are both desperate and broke.

For a first launch of a very,very important revamped show, the guest list was absolutely pathetic. Complete dogshit.

It needed at least one A-lister, of which we have so many in this Country now. You know who they all are, but I'd have settled for Jamie Dornan another Co. Down man.

I was thinking Sharon Horgan, Jimmy Nesbitt, Katie Taylor, Rachael Blackmore, Shane Lowry, Roisin Murphy, anyone of substance you care to think of.

Our Women's team are only back from the World Cup and they've had no media profile. Instead of that no-mark journeyman McClean, it should have been McCabe or O'Sullivan or Brosnan. Couldn't Vera Pauw have told her side? What a coup that would be but no.....

And the "music" act? Jesus wept on the cross, my dog has vomited up better.

So much musical talent out there and we got THAT. Dermot Kennedy, Soda Blonde, Annie Mac, Inhaler; all contemporary, all talented, all impressive. The Mary Wallopers would've been perfect for the tone.

Kielty himself was fine. Grand like. He sorta became part of the set. Maybe thats what was wanted. I'd have thought his cheeky chappy act might have faded a bit now that he's 52, but obviously not. We'll see how it goes....

Out of 5 Stars, 2.

They have to ditch bringing out Irish sports team cringe. That's binned.

It's not good television.

Kielty is a breath of fresh air.

Very disappointed with the guest list. I am a fan of Tommy Tiernan and Hector. But Lourita Blewitt winging on the back of being a cousin of sleepy Joe. I gave up listening to their podcast as she has nothing to offer regarding having the crack. If anything she takes away from the Podcast. Not a fan of the Two Johnnies even thought they come from the same county as me but fair play ro them. James Mc Clean's interview was heart rendering and I have to say Patrick came across quiet sympathetic and proved as well as been light hearted he is well capable of holding his own when it comes to the serious stuff. overall a confident performance but will need to move away from the same old same old regarding his guest list.

I listened to Newstalk this morning. Good, lighthearted disagreement on the new era. One of the guests was adamant that it was losing its soul, while the other expressed the view common here that people just want some entertainment on a Friday night, without the dollop of misery.

I side with the second view but it did get me thinking that if the LLS does become an entertainment-only affair something will be lost. The image of the Late Late as the ‘forum of the nation’ is probably sustained more by storied-reputation than reality, but there is definitely an extent to which it remains true, and so long as we believe it, it’s sort of self-fulfilling. It would be a shame to throw off those robes because it’s thought incompatible with entertainment, and I don’t see what else would take on the mantle - it would just be lost from Irish society

In particular, I’m thinking about the occasional panel discussions over the years, often with audience involvement, which to me were some of the most fulfilling and unifying moments in Irish media culture. When, say, a referendum on Irish unity is being held, I would hope that the new formula still has room for those fractious but sincere representations of the national mood.

I think PK is very capable of doing that panel discussion and week able to bring the audience in and wind them back off needs be as well. The trouble is that when TLLS was in its heyday RTE were broadcasting 4-12pm most days. There was led scope for political content so the LLS definitely helped in that regard, plus acting as a medium due making the man/woman on the street have his/her say. Couple that with a more powerful Catholic Church and we really were quite a constructed country so there were definite barriers that had to be broken down. Now there are so many ways for the average person to express themselves with social media. I grew up in the 80s and the place is unrecognisable now and changed got the better for the most part. There’s probably no though with taking in issues head on every few weeks like housing or unification or whatever is the burning issue of the time.

I gave up at the two Johnnie’s but I liked what I saw till then Ge was right to lean into the RT/RTE stuff. Own it, kick it around and then leave it behind. I think this first show might have been people he handpicked just to get him out of the blocks. A kind of soft launch of sorts. Later in sure he’ll get into a routine with different guests. There really should be a moratorium on n appearing again in a season if you’ve already been on. Unless you’ve done something that actually merits you getting on again, and not just a new book or podcast.

Nowadays if you want to interview the big names you’re off to London for a prerecord or they come in need week for a a prerecord. That might not be so feasible with PK being based in London with other continents during the week now.

I’ve a feeling I’ll fall into tuning in for the opening monologue now and maybe stay for the best guest of they catch my eye. All in all though a good edit from what I saw. I found myself genuinely laughing at times which is something I haven’t experienced watching TLLS in my adult life, so well done PK.

Agree with an earlier poster on Lauruta Blewitt running that podcast. I could never quote when it why where was there. Tommy & Hector have a chemistry on their own. She gets in the way and isn’t ask that interesting either. I stopped listening to the podcast after a while as it started to sound to me like a a few talking shîte in a pub on a Tuesday evening.