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BYD Atto3

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,945 ✭✭✭Grumpypants


    Not a lot between them at all. I see reports that the Model Y built in Germany is using BYD batteries too. Likely the blade technology the atto uses.






  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Wrong thread



  • Registered Users Posts: 315 ✭✭Stevie2001


    Man the Y boot is huge

    2000l when you fold the seats, chargers way faster too, 25mins vs 45 mins 10 - 80% and the 0-100km/h is a bit misleading as the Atto3 200bhp motor really starts to run out of puff big time after 120km/h, it tops out at 160km/h vs Tesla Y 220km/h top speed, the rolling overtaking test 80-120km/h tells the true picture 4.1s vs 5.2s in Y favour



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,848 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Yes but we can’t post most of that as people think you’re a T fanboy. They really are technically above most others.

    But it’s great there’s choice and we need more low cost options to get people inEV’s.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,049 ✭✭✭Mr Q


    The boot space in a Model Y is really big but that comparison listed earlier is wrong as it isn't a like for like comparison. The seats up part.

    The boot in that is measured to the roof and not to the parcel shelf which is the normal way to do it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,393 ✭✭✭Fingleberries


    Saw one of these out in the wild this week (a silver one, on the M50). They're a decent looking car, excluding the 'Build Your Dreams' on the back. It looked well and seemed to handle nipping in and out of M50 prime time traffic in its stride.



  • Registered Users Posts: 243 ✭✭LasersGoPewPew




    Even including dealer fees the Atto 3 is a good alternative to a M3SR or even more expensive MY depending on your criteria and budget. Compared to the M3SR, the Atto 3 has more usable space/easy access boot because of the hatch, better foot room for rear passengers, easier to get in/out as its a crossover, more reliable radar cruise control, 360 camera, parking sensors, rain sensor, 150kw DC charging speed is decent, blindspot monitoring, better vehicle warranty, android auto/CarPlay, has a drivers display, I don't know how well the lane keep assist performs in all conditions in the BYD but at least you don't have to re-engage it every time you change lanes unlike Tesla basic Autopilot.

    In that comparison of the MY, Tesla manipulated the the real boot capacity by omitting the parcel shelf, yes it's still larger due to the underfloor storage and length. I haven't been able to find any info on the real capacity of the MY's boot yet. I don't count the blind spot camera as a good feature in Teslas. It's only really active when indicating and it takes your vision off the road to look at it clearly. With the blindspot monitoring it's always active and you can see it from your peripheral vision before you indicate, much more useful and safe imo. The auto park stuff doesn't work in new Teslas anymore thanks to TeslaVision and lack of sensors and probably will never work properly because of the limitations of cameras, especially when dirty. But even if it did work, EAP is a €3800 optional extra so it's not a fair comparison.

    The Teslas have more performance, better UI/app, better sound amongst other things, but the Atto is it's own positives too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,349 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    I seen my first BYD ATTO 3 today on the M4 heading out of Dublin and it was a Taxi.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,848 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Yes, on the road working for about €19k if your scrapping.




  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    God damn that bloody interior, I hate it or I would have one tomorrow



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,349 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    Why would you hate it? It so much nicer than all or most of the other dull dark interiors out there. Look at the MG4 for instance all black and dull the same with VWs and many other cars too although the ORA Funky Cat has a nice bright interior. Has anyone seen one of them on the roads yet? The BYDs interior is supposed to have a chemical smell anyway according to Autocar. Whether that is true or not I do not know.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Because it's designed to resemble a gym and accompanying ideas.


    I hate the door string storage and I certainly hate the exposed muscle looking central console



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,848 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    My opinion is the interior let’s it down somewhat too.

    it’s a bit messy IMO. All that screen real estate, but they still fit fiddly scroll wheels in the centre arm rest area for volume control.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,225 ✭✭✭pad199207


    Seen one in the flesh there for the first time. Definitely not for me



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,945 ✭✭✭Grumpypants


    It is risky, but I like it.

    I was in a Tesla model Y a few weeks ago and was struck by how boring everything was. I know everything about a Tesla is in the software. But still it could look a bit more like a 50k car.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,778 ✭✭✭horse7


    Does Spotify work while driving?



  • Registered Users Posts: 95 ✭✭grennscreener


    Had one as a rental for 3 days in Germany there last week. Was really comfortable to drive, and was easier to maneuver around tight spaces than my ioniq5.

    Efficiency was pretty decent as well, I did about 20min on the autobahn twice a day each day, I wasn't holding back the horses' and only had to charge the battery once (got stung for 40quid at a shell station for it). Didn't really use the inbuilt software, wireless android auto was a nice surprise. Build quality seemed really decent, I didn't hear a rattle or a squeak from it in the 3 days. Really solid on the road, had a couple of thunder showers on the autobahn which it handled like a champ.

    I wasn't a fan of the design of the interior from the pictures, wasn't sure about it for the first day but after that I didn't mind it. I ended up loving the gear selector.

    In the end I was sad dropping it back, twas a nice thing to drive for a few days. I wouldn't trade the ioniq for one, and I'd not pay what they're asking for simply because it feels I'd just be rewarding the dealer's greed. But based on that I'd be happy to look at BYD in the future.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,349 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    I finally seen my first one of these while out walking the dogs yesterday. It was a white one and looked well.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,194 ✭✭✭Fian


    I drove mine Dublin to Galway on motorway last weekend. I can confirm that the active cruise control and lane keeping worked fine at motorway speeds, aside from when lane markings disappeared for some reason it drove itself down on the motorway. I didn't try it in city traffic but i expect it would be fine there too tbh. It does complain if you take your hands off the wheel, or even hold the wheel at the bottom, it must have sensors to pick up whether you are holding it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65,774 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    Not relevant for most Irish owners, but Nyland did the 1000km test

    2023 60kWh Atto 3 - 12:15

    2016 28kWh Ioniq - 11:55

    Only watched the end but there seemed to be a lot of rapidgating. That's not really a great result and certainly not progress. Far slower than the competition for a car that should be, but isn't really, much cheaper than the competition. Not sure what BYD are playing at here, but this is not the way to conquer western markets.





  • Registered Users Posts: 111 ✭✭MagicBusDriver1


    The speakers and auto steer suck too. Most charging sessions bugged out. It is not competitive quality wise with the competition.



  • Registered Users Posts: 529 ✭✭✭electricus


    For a big looking car, it’s surprisingly small inside (but maybe it looks smaller in real life?)

    Based on reviews, I’d prefer a hatchback like the MG4 or ID.3 which have comparable space and look better inside and out.

    Also, I couldn’t deal with my kids messing with the guitar string things non stop!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,945 ✭✭✭Grumpypants


    Watched the video there, seems to be all based around not kicking in the cooling fast enough to keep the battery under 45 degrees, which I'm sure can be fixed with a software update.

    I do like the look of it but I can't get past if you have 42k. You should really try everything you can to get the extra 6k for the model Y.

    When I got the MG it was the top spec one for 36.5k. And before the model Y price cut so the difference was considerable.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    It's not a 42k car. They've jumped on the european market gouging without any brand recognition or hype. And as for the the Han? Am I the only one thinking 72k means dead on arrival?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65,774 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    What are they thinking? Their strategy can't work.

    You have to do something like the Japanese did in the 70s - much better spec for the same money and prove over time that your products are better quality than the incumbents. That worked. Or like the Koreans did in the 90s - cheaper better spec but mediocre cars with old tech and increase the quality overtime and offer superior service / warranty. That worked too.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,679 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    Is that what Dacia is doing? Old Renault spec in a cheap new vehicle.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,822 ✭✭✭Old diesel


    He repeated the test again.

    Apparently setting the cabin temperature to 18 after charging helps bring down the battery temperature faster

    2nd time round the car did it 35 mins faster albeit on a Norway route due to reports of flooding on normal Sweden route.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,822 ✭✭✭Old diesel


    Rapidgate on an Atto 3 works as follows.

    At 46 degrees max battery temp the car throttles back from 84 kW to 47 kW

    If temp drops back from 46 degrees then car will go up to 85 kW again and therefore you don't really get a cooling effect from rapidgate slowing the speed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,778 ✭✭✭horse7


    Did anyone get a software update (v1.5) yet?



  • Registered Users Posts: 466 ✭✭discostu1


    Saw my first one tonight , parked next to the MG4 It looked a lot bigger maybe it was the height , additives a lot higher



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,763 ✭✭✭poker--addict


    also disappointed this hasn't represented a shake up. People are price conscious so byd must believe they only need to be a tiny bit cheaper, but brands matter in car. They are going to have to slash prices to grow I suspect. This won't be near top of my list now. Wonder what price the 8-9,000e Seagul model will retail at in Europe?

    😎



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,185 ✭✭✭k123456


    Boot Size


    Question for anyone that has moved from Ioniq 28 / 38 to Atto3 and Boot space

    Capacity

    440-litre Atto 3

    357 Ioniq 

    83 litre difference

    110 bottles of wine = 9 crates 

    I have an Ioniq and visually it difficult to see

    how I could fit 83 litres extra in a BYD ?




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,466 ✭✭✭JohnC.


    It’s been mentioned as something wanted (or not wanted) in here, and apparently across Europe too. The Build Your Dreams badging will be removed from the rear of the Atto and Seal as a result of customer feedback. It will remain on the Dolphin as it’s pressed into the steel rather than an easily deleted badge.





  • Registered Users Posts: 1 kespower


    Hi there, I picked up my byd yesterday but cellular connection does not seem to be working. It says it has 4g but Spotify etc will not work unless I connect it to a WiFi point. Any ideas? Also the dab+ radio is not working....



  • Registered Users Posts: 292 ✭✭tlaavtech


    There are no DAB broadcasts in Ireland any more, so you can tick that one off the list.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,778 ✭✭✭horse7


    You,ll pick up dab when you drive up to the north eg Newry.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,778 ✭✭✭horse7


    Just check the menu on your infotainment screen.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 762 ✭✭✭finno


    Took one for a test drive today nice car to drive and looks well.

    Thinking of going pcp route if I put 11k in the monthly payments are 511 euro.

    What do people think, a bit high monthly payments?



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,848 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Personal choice really. I just don’t understand how people choose to pay €500 a month for a car. Do your sums and make sure you’ll save on the other costs.



  • Registered Users Posts: 312 ✭✭DrPsychia


    if you give us the finance details it would be helpful to inform you. PCP % rate, term length, GFMV, and total interest paid.

    From my analysis of PCP offerings over the years I found it's considerably more expensive than HP.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 762 ✭✭✭finno


    Hi

    Here are the details

    Car Cost 40950

    Deposit €11000

    Monthly €511 over 3 years

    GFV €15,562

    APR 5.95


    thanks



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,778 ✭✭✭horse7


    Can Atto3 owners check the BYD app to lock/unlock their cars please ( this function isn't working for mine).



  • Registered Users Posts: 312 ✭✭DrPsychia


    I think that's an OK deal. You should have about 8-10k equity when trading in. Do you intend to trade in after 3 years or refinance the remainder of the loan?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,194 ✭✭✭Fian


    It took about 4/5 days after i got the app for this to work on mine. I called the dealership who put me in contact with BYD. I think it is just a case of waiting for some linkup no their database to be made after they connect the car to your app. I could not turn on seat heating or AC too, other things worked in app. All working fine now. It was fixed the day after i contacted them. I could lock it in app though, just not unlock, turn on AC or heated seats.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,481 ✭✭✭finbarrk


    Can the rear seats be let down to increase boot space?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,239 ✭✭✭MarkN


    Of course.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,945 ✭✭✭Grumpypants


    For anyone that has bought the atto how were BYD for trade in? Or negotiating the price.

    I've asked for a price on mine, BYD said they don't take used cars yet so it goes to a third party that only sells EVs and they are fair enough. His words not mine. I'm waiting on a price which at this point will be Monday.


    He did mention that BYD are building their own dealership in cork and when that's open they will be a full dealer and take trade in themselves.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I got to, finally, take a look at one. The price is crazy, for it, and would never warm to that interior.


    Such a pity, everything was pointing to it being a winner, for me



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,747 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    You'd wonder, how much of this is the importer just reading the market badly?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,778 ✭✭✭horse7


    If you like a dull dark interior there's lots of choices out there.



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