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London Rolex

  • 15-08-2023 1:29pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,430 ✭✭✭


    Does anyone know if you can buy a new Rolex Submariner in a London AD without being on a waiting list, living there etc? Thank you



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,954 ✭✭✭C0N0R


    Absolutely not. And especially not if you mean a stainless steel model.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,430 ✭✭✭forumdedum




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,571 ✭✭✭Fitz II


    There is nothing to stop you getting a watch anywhere you want, and the AD will not care. However if you get on in the UK you could get stung for duty on bringing it in. The next problem is getting them to give you a submariner. Google on this and you will see that these watches are in high demand and usually only given to preferred customers. How to become a preferred customer?

    • Let the pointy shoe salesman ride your wife.
    • Buy a bunch of shitters off them and loose your shirt on them.
    • Bring them coffee and donuts every day for a year.
    • Suck them off yourself to spare the wife the trauma.
    • Get amazingly lucky.

    With all options you get to take what should be a nice purchase and turn it into a shameful loss of your dignity.

    Or.....just buy one on the secondary market and spend a couple grand more for the privilege of saving your dignity and actually saving money. I recommend iChrono.ie



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,430 ✭✭✭forumdedum


    Dear Fitz,

    Thank you very much for your reply to my post in relation to the Rolex Submariner. I have never been stopped at an airport upon return but there is a first time for everything and perhaps some beads of sweat visible on my forehead combined with a temporary eye twitch could trigger the instinct of a customs officer. I am indeed aware that Submariners are in high demand. I guess I hoped they had some in stock in London.

    Your advice on how to become a preferred customer is most enlightening. I am most impressed that you know the style of shoe the salesman will be wearing. In relation to the salesman's wish to have sexual intercourse with my wife do you think he will say this or will he communicate it in the form of a 'nudge nudge wink wink' gesture in a Monty Pythonesque manner? Just so I know.

    I do not wish to spend a lot of money on jewellery and other watches as I'm not even certain I'm even in the financial state to buy the Rolex in the first instance.

    I would not be able to bring coffee and donuts for a year as I will only be in London for 4 days. However, I am prepared to place an order that will be delivered to them daily while I'm back home in Ireland.

    I have never performed fellatio so I would be worried about the act being good enough to satisfy the salesman. In fact the poor quality could have the opposite effect? Also, I know my heart would not be in it.

    So, luck it will have to be.

    Your chrono.ie suggested has not gone unnoticed.

    With every good wish,

    Forumdedum



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,329 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    But if you don't go to your local AD you won't "get the call"

    Check out reddit for the horror stories. Last week I read a guy who was waiting 2 years after putting his name down for a black dial oyster perpetual, and in that time he had to buy 2 tudors. And he insisted he "enjoyed the process"



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,430 ✭✭✭forumdedum


    I did go to my AD. I must look up Reddit. Tudors are lovely in fairness. In fact there are lots of fabulous looking watches out there



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,571 ✭✭✭Fitz II


    "I do not wish to spend a lot of money on jewellery and other watches as I'm not even certain I'm even in the financial state to buy the Rolex in the first instance."


    This above all else will limit your ability to have one allotted to you unless a saleperson take a big shine to you. As for the rest it good to set boundaries 😁 In general the person selling the watch on the secondary market is the one with more flexible boundaries. The submariner is a excellent watch, and a credit to any owner, so if thats the one you want try not be swayed to buy other options, man maths can quickly fill a watch box.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,383 ✭✭✭✭Birneybau


    They'd be basically handing over pure profit in your favour



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,430 ✭✭✭forumdedum


    They would if I sold it. I wouldn't sell it. Though how are they to know that



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,430 ✭✭✭forumdedum


    Yes I need to borrow a Ferrari and park it outside the AD. Not easy. Boundaries lol. Your 1 word comment on my post is genius - I salute you.

    Agree, much wise just to buy a Submariner and a Submariner only.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,571 ✭✭✭Fitz II


    Said every Rolex buyer ever. 🤣 I have never bought a watch I intended to sell, but here I am so many watches bought and sold. Generally ADs are not interested in what other things you have outside of money spent with them, they just want to see you have a good spend history with them on high profit items and less desirable watches and then by their divine grace they may release a watch to you are RRP. You will have lost more money on the purchases than any possible grey market mark up on the Rolex. If you need a engagement or wedding ring it often a good time as that a spend you need to make anyway.


    Generally what happens is you go in. Chat to the sale person,, give them some tale of what you want and why, maybe get a glass of cheap prosecco. They say they will put you down on a list, you leave happy and hopeful and then 5 years later you're a cynical cranky bollox on the internet like me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,286 ✭✭✭Brief_Lives


    they will probably have them for sale at the airport.



  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 9,980 ✭✭✭mik_da_man


    No Subs in Heathrow when I went through last month or earlier in the year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 700 ✭✭✭galvo_clare


    Would you think of trying a dealer in Switzerland? It was back in 2007 so things may have changed but I largely did the deal over email with a small dealer in Interlaken.

    I arrived, he showed me several Daytonas and I picked the one I wanted. Got an extra bit of discount and I saved serious money.

    No issues bringing it in on my wrist.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,571 ✭✭✭Fitz II


    2007 was a different time, you were a lucky man to make that decision then. 4-5 year wait on a daytona these days.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,797 ✭✭✭scwazrh


    As we both know a 4-5 year wait is the same as youre never getting it .

    I was told by the AD the pepsi is getting more and more scarce .Reckons theres problems with the red ceramic and the failure rate is too high for the watch's price point . I wasnt asking for one so assume it was a genuine comment .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,571 ✭✭✭Fitz II


    Having said that, you can have a Daytona tomorrow from weirs if you buy 2 or 3 100k Patek dress watches and the hope diamond for the wife. Ah those AD games, such fun.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,797 ✭✭✭scwazrh


    TBF in my experience the ad games in weirs are not like the horror stories you hear . I put my name down and followed up with a couple of emails and then got the watch.I’ve bought 5 watches from them and two are Rolex and I certainly haven’t played any of the so called AD games .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,375 ✭✭✭893bet


    Now maybe I am far off the mark but you are playing it….

    1) If all Rolex models you like were available would you still have bought the other 3 watches (tudors I assume?), possibily not I suspect.

    2) They gave you a sub and that blue OP? Now those watches are not scarce like Daytona but equally you can’t walk in and buy. Do you really think they would have given them to you if you hadn’t being buying the few other bits and gotten to know the sales person etc ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,571 ✭✭✭Fitz II


    If your buying what you want when you want it...then you not playing games. If you buying what you can get when you can get it...you are, because they are calling the shots. In this day and age of a soft market where a black sub date is 10,450 retail and on the secondary a few year old one is 10.5k there is no point at all.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,294 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    I posted the below over on the chit chat thread, but it is just as germane to the conversation here.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,797 ✭✭✭scwazrh


    1) If all Rolex models you like were available would you still have bought the other 3 watches (tudors I assume?), possibily not I suspect.

    Panerai before I asked to be on a list for a sub , santos and snowflake after that .So yeah I would of bought them anyway but I was very aware that the 5% discount on the last two was still making the watches cost more than grey market.Overall though the couple of Rolex at rrp balance out any extra I paid on the other two and benefit of knowing they are 100% genuine.

    2)Do you really think they would have given them to you if you hadn’t being buying the few other bits and gotten to know the sales person etc ?

    All different sales people so that’s not it but without purchase history no of course they wouldn’t have sold me what I want .But thats the same in all business , even In my own business we won’t provide certain services or goods to new customers but will to existing customers provided their previous spend is high enough.It’s a fairly standard business model.


    Certainly wouldnt buy stuff for the sake of building a purchase history.

    Point of my post was that the tales of having to buy them gifts or call in each week or remember the sales guys birthday or other such games hasn’t been my experience with weirs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,300 ✭✭✭CantGetNoSleep


    There are a few posts recently in the Rolex sub on Reddit that claim to be getting a Submariner / GMT in a few days without any relationship or purchase history. Wondering are things changing?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,571 ✭✭✭Fitz II


    Its always happened but remember if there are a million people waiting for a sub 3 of them will post online about waiting. If 3 of them get one without a wait all 3 post online. The "I got the call" social media post is mandatory, annoying and braggadocios in equal measure..

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47 FocusST


    Can anyone recommend a Rolex dealer on Chrono 24 or similar? Been watching the 126710BLRO for about a year now and the price doesn't seem like it's going to budge anytime soon so looking at going grey market.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,430 ✭✭✭forumdedum


    No Rolex at London Stansted unless I missed it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66,122 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    C24 has a "guarantee" in the form of escrow payments. You receive the watch, you can take it to your local AD or indy watch specialist, they can check the watch over, make sure everything is ok, and only then do you need to inform C24 that all is in order, which will prompt them to release your money to the seller

    So pretty safe, even if you buy from a private seller on C24



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,430 ✭✭✭forumdedum




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 246 ✭✭notuslimited


    I travel a lot to Frankfurt airport. Their shop there has no watches for sale since I started to enquire about 2 years ago. They are just for show.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66,122 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    That's the same with almost all Rolex ADs worldwide. Only exception I have personally spotted was Schiphol airport, they have actual watches that you can try on too. But you can't buy them. Probably unless you're an oil sheikh and you spend a fortune on crap first 😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,372 ✭✭✭Homer


    How many people have been in to the new Rolex boutique in Weirs? They’re claiming that they will have significantly more stock as they have made a substantial investment in the new showroom .. still couldn’t sell me a Pepsi GMT when I asked though 😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,430 ✭✭✭forumdedum


    Haven't been to the boutique. I put my name down a while back, not a dickie bird



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,797 ✭✭✭scwazrh


    I think it’s a nice fit out. Obviously branded well as a Rolex space .Nice to see the trays full even if you can’t buy them for now. It’s not long ago since you couldn’t even try one on so at least that’s a step in the right direction

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66,122 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    Was also in the new Rolex "Boutique" in Weir's today. Much better than it was but the professionalism of the staff leaves a lot to be desired. Tried on black Skydweller on jubilee, Wimbledon DJ on jubilee and Sprite.

    I said the Sprite was 40mm wasn't it? She said no, 41mm. I insisted I said it really is 40mm, isn't it. Which she just denied. Honestly there were maybe 30 watches in total. How hard is it to know a few basic facts about each of them

    And silly me put on the destro Sprite upside down first, immediately realising what I did - automatic reaction 😂 Wimbledon was quite tasty



  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 9,980 ✭✭✭mik_da_man


    Anything actually for sale there?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,375 ✭✭✭893bet


    Id say she was very impressed with your knowledge.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,797 ✭✭✭scwazrh


    yeah tbf a bit of staff training would be expected but they probably get away with a basic knowledge when dealing with the majority of customers. A wis will always be a challenge for them. When I was last there I was wearing my Tudor dark Chrono which is a limited edition piece for the all blacks in 2019 . The sales rep had never seen one or even knew of its release despite also selling Tudor.

    Wimbledon dial 41mm DJ would be my choice of what you tried but I would be biased .





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66,122 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    At least they were very clear on that. When I asked to see the new boutique, the first thing they said was: "nothing for sale here"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66,122 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    I obviously also had to enquire about the Deepsea Challenge. If they could give me a call if they ever got an even "exhibition only" one in, could they give me a call so I could try it on. The fella showed me a pic of one still in the protective plastic on his wrist on a Rolex do they had been to abroad, it looked insane on his tiny wrists 😁 the lady then told me there is zero chance one would ever come to an AD in Ireland. Rolex told her directly that about 3 or so of them went to ADs in the UK per year. Shame.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,329 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    Who the hell buys a Deepsea Challenge? It looks like something made for demonstration purposes. It's crazy big



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,925 ✭✭✭H_Lime




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65 ✭✭mdo


    Same here in the USA but I purchased a Sub LV, a Sub No Date and a GMT Sprite since early 2022 without making additional purchases. Some say I'm very lucky. I visited at least ten Rolex AD's before narrowing it down to two...I seek out the oldest most experienced SA or store owner by phone and follow up with visit to the store. I send a text or email every few months to reaffirm my interest. My shortest wait was three weeks for a Sub LV and 13 months for the Sprite. I'm on the list for a GMT Pepsi and told I might get the call by mid 2024 or early 2025....While in Cork this past Dec the rep at Keanes told me I would have to spend at least 20K in the store to have a chance at a Sub. I said no thanks I only pay MSRP and don't make unnecessary purchases. My method works for me here in the states....There's always Chrono24 for those who seek instant gratification at a cost of $5K-$10K above MSRP.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,157 ✭✭✭redlead


    To be fair, most watch sales people cant be expected to be watch nerds but basic things like size should be known. I find main dealer car salesmen the worst. I generally know more about the car they are selling just from reading their own brochure before going in there. Shocking laziness.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 342 ✭✭jefferson73


    Heathrow London at the moment, skydweller and two datejusts available this one being the better one in my mind.




  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 9,980 ✭✭✭mik_da_man




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 342 ✭✭jefferson73


    £6450 for the datejust



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