Bedroom window fire safety!

"Drama"? Well it's quite obvious if there was a fire in the hall outside that room in that apartment it would require smashing the window which is a fact.

That is why the OP started this thread because the window was changed. "Long story short the window used to open inwards they decided to change it a few years ago but iv been fighting them as the window installed is now a fixed window with no opening!" I doubt a child would have the know how to break a double glazed window in a worst case scenario.

OK, I think I will leave this here and let the child in the room make that decision while the building burns down.

I was referring to the type of restrictors installed by a building owner for security purposes after installation.

Look back through my posts. I have provided you with fire safety advice that could potentially save you and your family. The responsibility for the safety of your family lies with you. You requested advice and you have received advice from a number of people who work in the field of fire safety, I can tell this because of the wording and technical advice they are providing you with.

I presume you are not a fire safety professional as you are disregarding the professional advice provided here and instead looking to make a big deal out of the window situation.

My fire safety guidance below:

• Check your smoke detectors regularly - smoke detectors = early warning, early warning means a better chance of survival.
• Keep your escape route clear of obstructions when you go to bed at night, you dont want people tripping or have something catch fire in your hallway.
• Close all doors at night before you go to bed, this will keep the smoke and fire in the room of fire origin and will hopefully provide you and your family with time to recognise that the fire alarm is beeping and to get out of the building.
• Make sure all your electrical cables are sound. Do not repair damaged cables, throw them out immediately. My wife bought an expensive electric blanket about 10 months ago. Last week she showed me the cable on my side of the blanket, it was chipped and split. I dont know how. The rest of the cable was spotless. The full thing had to go straight in the bin. If she was not rummaging behind the bed it would have gone unnoticed and was a serious fire hazard.
• Draw up a fire response plan. When the alarm goes, everyone should know exactly what to do. No wandering around sleepy eyed, everyone gets up and gets out the door. Involve your daughter and let her know what to do in the event of a fire alarm activation. Dont go looking for toys, dont go hiding somewhere, come straight to mammy and daddys room and wake them up if they are still asleep.

Fire safety is your responsibility, dont put your trust in a builder supposedly doing his job right 15 years ago. I inspect a lot of buildings and see a lot of **** work. Trust me, take care of yourself and your family. Dont rely on anything or anyone else.

The conversation was over until you brought it up again.

I dont think I doubled down on anything. I saw syds comment and replied. The image he showed backed up where I was coming from, post installation restrictors. I was not arguing any point. His point was also backed up. We were both coming from different view points.

I have seen window restrictor devices added to windows in mental health premises where there is a risk of the resident either falling or jumping from an openable window. They had installed restrictor devices on the windows that were openable by a key.

HSE Information Sheet No 5 - Falls from windows or balconies in health and social care states the following:

I admit my original comment was not 100% accurate but it was not fully wrong either. Not sure why it has got your back up so much.

That’s a very long winded way of acknowledging you were wrong.

The HSE guidelines applied to HSE situations. It in no way implies that is the only situation where they can be used.

It hasn’t got my back up at all. I’m pointing out that misinformation so nobody is mislead by it. The forum is a resource for others.

And let’s be clear, what you say was fully wrong. Restrictors are allowed. You explained how you got mixed up, doesn’t make it less wrong though

I think the whole point of the thread the OP started was the fact the window does not open! Maybe read the opening post before telling me what I know about. The fact you were pissed when you had you're light bulb moment is hardly relevant apart from the fact it's probably why you took so long to break it. I think I'll leave you all to it here.

I admitted I was wrong. I was thinking about a different type of restrictor. I have no bother admitting when I am wrong.

My comments about restrictors not being allowed is still correct, it was just not relevant to this thread. I was talking about a different type of restrictor device that is not allowed and is stated as such in the snip of the tgd that was used to prove me wrong.

My abundance of waffle is actually sound fire safety advice. The op would be better placed implimenting that advice than worrying about escape windows.

I left this discussion 2 weeks ago, I'm just not sure why it's being dragged up again.

You half admitted you were wrong in a irrelevant post about the HSE. Then you added a "but it was not fully wrong either" and now "My comments about restrictors not being allowed is still correct".

It's was not correct. Simple as. The reason it's still dragged up is because you keep insisting it was correct despite you also being wrong. All you had to say was "sorry, I got mixed up with a different window lock".

The comment "restrictors are not allowed" is not accurate for buildings in general.

I correct you because your post was incorrect, that's all. This is a place of information for others. If you left it there that would have been it, we all get mixed up occasionally.

It's utterly hilarious that your accusing others of ego, when you're going on a rant and refusing to let the issue go because your were proven wrong. Even more hilarious that your posting under the guide of being a professional. The professional thing to do is acknowledge your mistake and move on.

Not sure why you are posted that section from the TGD. @sydthebeat already highlight how it proves you were wrong.