Permanent food market

They're trying to do something like that on Moore Street.

Prior to the pandemic there used to be a kind of food market on the canal at Mespil Road every thursday, does that not happen anymore?

(I don't work in the area any longer).

Still there, and in merrion square park on a Thursday too

CHQ Building is another potential

Yeah. That's another kind of market again — basically a craft market, with eating and drinking facilities. People mainly go to this kind of market for the experience of being there, rather than because they want to buy stuff to bring home.

There's nothing wrong with this kind of market — they're great — but they are a far cry from the big European food markets where people go to buy cabbages or apples or olives or housewares or whatever.

There was a good piece on Prime time last week about this very topic. A clip is below.

DCC are such a mess that Lord iveagh had to repossess the Iveagh market based on a 100 year old clause. he wanted to give it abck to DCC for free but they messed him around. He rightly got pissed off paying for security and being messed around that he handed them back the keys and pretty much washed his hands of it.

https://www.rte.ie/video/id/7558/

Nah, it's constantly back and forth. Lots of meetings behind closed doors about it as well, that the councillors are keeping quiet.

It's a minimum of 15 years away at this stage. The "owner" has deliberately let the building fall into it's current state of disrepair.

There's two or three completely different things being conflated in this thread -

the once-weekly takeaway food (mostly) pop-up markets, like at Baggot St bridge on the canal, Herbert Park, Marlay Park and loads of other places

the bulk markets where you'd do your weekly store-cupboard shopping (but I agree with the poster above who says they could never and probably would never try to compete with the likes of Lidl and Aldi)

the artisanal/high-end food and souvenir markets aimed mostly at tourists or the wealthier end of the shopper spectrum (such as the English Market in Cork)

From the description, what the OP was at in Kilkenny sounds like the first - a pop-up takeaway food market, and there are loads of them around the place and they do great business. But I don't think they'd sustain a full-time presence anywhere - apart from anything, they're mostly lunchtime trade where someone grabs a fresh wrap/box of noodles etc. They are a fantastic addition to the neighbourhoods they're in on the days they happen, IMO, and long may they continue to thrive!

I haven't followed the sagas in detail, but the wrangling over the Iveagh and Smithfield markets seems to involve careering around and around between the second and third (as well as getting completely tied up in planning battles and rogue developers) and getting nowhere fast - to the point that the two will have actually fallen down before anything happens. And that would be a shame.

I don't remember the Iveagh markets when they were open, but we used to do a lot of bulk shopping for our large family when we were kids in the Smithfield one - I loved going over there, it was like a little adventure. And I continued going there for fresh flowers and plants when I needed them. But again, consumers turned to the discount retailers and it just became a very uncomfortable place to do wholesale business that could probably be done far more efficiently elsewhere (I think).

I'd love to see something, anything at all being done with the two derelict market sites.

Herbert Park has a huge food market, not sure which day it's on, but sounds similar. And the canal at Baggot St on Thursday is similar.

And I'm fairly sure Marlay Park has one as well.

Found this if anyone is interested! Its about the food truck markets.

Who, when and where.

I used to love the one on the canal on Thursday, and would try something new if I could.

Will it be enough?

https://www.thejournal.ie/iveagh-markets-funding-conservation-6174746-Sep2023/

30m sounds too cheap.

Whatever it costs, it'll be worth it.

Great for the community. It's a real touristy area now also with Guinness and other attractions so would get plenty of footfall in tourist season. Lots of hotels and students nearby also.

It's also the type of place people would check out on a Saturday. The Marina market in Cork does very well.

I guess the ideal would be a food market and maybe an arts/crafts/designer section.

Similar can be done in the Fruit and Veg market near Capel St.

Dublin is big enough and they're far enough apart to support both.

I don't think money is the problem.

I haven't been to any of the others, and the last time was pre-Pandemic, so I wouldn't be surprised if the prices have shot up!

It used to be a nice lunch on a Thursday though, and a chance to try something new. I don't live or work near any of them now. :(

Well done everyone, we did it

The Martin Barry Group has taken a lease on St Andrew’s Church on Suffolk Street in Dublin 2, and aims to have the landmark building open as a food hall and multipurpose hospitality and cultural experience event space in the first half of 2025.

About 250 jobs are expected to be created in hospitality and management roles at the food hall, the company says.

The group operates three food halls in Prague and one in Berlin, under the Manifesto Market brand, including what it describes as “Europe’s largest food hall”, which opened in Berlin at Potsdamer Platz in January of this year, in the first phase of a global expansion plan. The Berlin Manifesto Market has more than 20 food vendors, along with a beer tower, bar and wine room, spread over 4,400sq m.

There will be space for 12 food vendors at the Dublin site, a mix of “small and medium independent chefs, restaurateurs and operators” and a mix of “first-time businesses with novel concepts, as well as established chefs with fine dining experience”, the company says.

Great to see it finally happening. Not sure why it takes 18 months, but great news!!

Google should have their market open in GCD next year and there will be a large food market at Malahide castle.

Wouldnt bet a dime on DCC delivering anything. The council are useless. So Smithfield, Iveagh markets etc are off the table.

Thankfully, we have some private companies that know what they are doing & The St Andrews Church in particular will make a killing and will hit the tourist guides as a must see if done well.