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Share Picks 2023

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,281 ✭✭✭aidanki


    was listening to the radio at the weekend, there was someone on about cash savings and the v bad rate of return the banks are giving.

    he was on about money market funds, google shows me this 10 Best Money Market Mutual Funds Of 2023 – Forbes Advisor

    I can buy these on degiro, I was wondering how much tax do I have to pay on this



  • Registered Users Posts: 114 ✭✭AnF Chuckie egg


    Have to disagree, AI is a real technology with years of research and development behind it. It's not going away, you are only seeing the tip of the Iceberg with regard to AI. You may not be aware but it is already making its way into a lot of products. The latest updates of MS Office all have AI built in which do subtle little helps such as creating themes and arrangements on the fly based on your inputs not on templates. AI has the ability to enhance everything we do.

    At the moment Nvidia are the clear winners, but there will be others.



  • Registered Users Posts: 808 ✭✭✭jams100


    Companies with a lot of data like Google (Alphabet), SAP, Oracle, Amazon all should do well from AI (Provided they exploit the opportunities presented of course). Obviously Nvidia too, but they are the main ones that spring to my mind. The likes of C3ai, darktrace could be more risky plays too. Likelihood is most the small players will flop and the big guns will take majority share.

    My bet is on Alphabet, Msft and SAP in that order



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,947 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    Quoting myself here. My few quid in Canoo last week have had a nice rise to date. Up 33% and seems to be gathering momentum.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,335 CMod ✭✭✭✭Nody


    As someone doing multiple "AI" implementation projects right now I'd suggest you take a long good look at the existing and upcoming legislation. It's getting to the point that I'm having our business units pushing back against AI implementation due to the risk it brings for lawsuits in USA, EU etc. The problem is not if it's true or not (various forms of discrimination because someone coded that AI in the first place and yes there has been multiple cases already), an AI lawsuit easily runs into the millions and good luck getting the money back from a private citizen who sued you in the first place (and blaming the system provider will not help either, been there, got the contracts fights to show for it)...



  • Registered Users Posts: 808 ✭✭✭jams100


    Google, Amazon, Meta etc. Have almost daily lawsuit cases, that's not necessarily anything particularly new, given their cash flows (less so amzn), they'll easily be able to cope.

    I think any sort of regulation that comes in are much needed for the good of society, but even with strict regulation it suits the bigger players like the above. (Governments are already playing catch up...the cat is out of the bag in many ways and AI isn't going anywhere, whether you or I like any of the potential negative consequences).

    Given the amount of money being pumped into AI, its only going to be more prominent, yes, there is a lot of bullsh*t hype around it too and alot of companies are just turds masquerading as "AI" companies.

    I'm not necessarily investing in the likes of Alphabet just for any AI upside, the fact is these are great companies in their own rights, even if they aren't "cheap" stocks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,929 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    Anyone have CRH shares on the Irish Exchange? I didn't know that was coming.

    'If I ventured in the slipstream, Between the viaducts of your dream'



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,186 ✭✭✭littlevillage


    Re-location of their listings has been well flagged for over a year in various business publications.


    Even mentioned it myself back on 13th Sept. on the ISEQ thread.



    I had Irish listed shares, sold them about 2 weeks ago... and bought US listed equivalents. Even if you still hold Irish listed shares they will presumably be bought back by the company or swapped for US/UK equivalents.

    Personally I don't really understand why they dumped Dublin and kept London as a secondary listing....they will still be headquartered in Dublin and now no longer have an EU stock exchange listing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,929 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    My CRH shares were converted to UK GBP shares listed in London. I don't understand what's going on though. Current Price is GBX 4,412.00, yet quantity stays the same. I assume they'll change my quantity in time. I doubled my money since I bought them in April 2020 for €24.4. I don't know if I'll sell now or not.

    'If I ventured in the slipstream, Between the viaducts of your dream'



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,113 ✭✭✭✭Mantis Toboggan


    I'd wait a few weeks at least, they're leaving Dublin & London and moving to the New York stock exchange next week, I'd expect the share price to rally and with dividends in November definitely worth the wait.

    Free Palestine 🇵🇸



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,438 ✭✭✭Shedite27


    UK prices are in pence, so price is actually £44.12 - closed in Ireland about €50 which is about the same



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,186 ✭✭✭littlevillage


    CRH is going to have its primary listing in New York (they had a secondary listing there already) and a secondary listing in London, Dublin is the only one being dropped.

    Yep, hoping for a bounce in the Share Price once the big US institutions start buying in. CRH will be included in S&P 500 eventually (next Autumn at a guess) that's when the SP should really get a turbo boost.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,929 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    'If I ventured in the slipstream, Between the viaducts of your dream'



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,339 ✭✭✭Markus Antonius


    Is there anyone actually doing well at the moment? All the major indexes appear be doing well this year, yet everything I bought has turned to dirt. I wouldn't mind if it was 4-5% down, but 15, 30, 50% down on nearly all the stocks I've bought, and they're not wild gambles either - Nextera energy, Merit Medical, Nexans SA and even Barrick Gold down 15%. It makes no sense at all this market.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,929 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    As Buffett said - “Interest rates are to asset prices, you know, sort of like gravity is to the apple,”. The way I see it, if it made sense to buy at the higher prices, then it makes even more sense to buy again at the lower prices.

    'If I ventured in the slipstream, Between the viaducts of your dream'



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,483 ✭✭✭✭Supercell


    Buy JAM, unless you are very good at reading company data you will almost certainly underperform in the long term.

    Have a weather station?, why not join the Ireland Weather Network - http://irelandweather.eu/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 914 ✭✭✭The Phantom Jipper


    Does anyone know what happens on DeGiro to the shares of companies that are bankrupt or on their way out? For example, 4d Pharma - there is some measly amount attributed to these and it also is the first one I see when I open the portfolio which is a depressing sight every day. Is it possible to dispose of duds like these to realise a loss and get them gone off the app once and for all?



  • Registered Users Posts: 316 ✭✭konline


    I'm experiencing a bumpy ride. I had hoped that EV (electric vehicle) shares would rise as more people transition to EV cars, but it seems I was mistaken. My portfolio is somewhat diversified, but I can't seem to stem the losses. I suffered a 20% loss over a year ago, enjoyed a 10% gain until last month, and now I am at BEP :) I'm fairly certain it will turn into a loss soon, but I'm hesitating to sell :(

    Has anyone else had a similar experience?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,007 ✭✭✭antimatterx


    We're in for a rough quarter or two. I don't expect gains really.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,186 ✭✭✭littlevillage


    Have a Stop loss set up for everything. Investing is about making money when times are good and not losing too much when times are bad.

    Always be ready to walk away.

    Preserve capital at all costs.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,929 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    Buy good companies at a cheap price and don't give a damn what the price does. Too many people take the share price rise or fall as confirmation that they made a good investment.

    Don't use stop losses either. You'll only end up selling in the dips. The worst possible thing to do.

    'If I ventured in the slipstream, Between the viaducts of your dream'



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,933 ✭✭✭tesla_newbie




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,933 ✭✭✭tesla_newbie


    I reckon the opposite, the market reaction yesterday suggests the rate hike environment might be priced in

    we have had nearly three months of falls now



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,186 ✭✭✭littlevillage


    That's all very solid advice but also very fanciful.


    How do you know a truly good company from say a middling one or a terrible one?

    and even if you were able to figure that out, things can change.


    How do you know that you are buying at a cheap price?

    And why not sell on a dip? before that dip becomes a massive sell off.


    My biggest losses have been where I have hung on too long to what I deemed to be good companies as the share price slowly collapsed.

    You have probably all heard the quote attributed to Ernest Hemingway — 'How did you go bankrupt? Two ways. Gradually, then suddenly.'



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,933 ✭✭✭tesla_newbie


    best Strategy for me is having a permanent portfolio for the vast majority of securities and having a small amount of cash for trading, I get a real kick out of trading but in truth you will be wrong enough times to make it unprofitable relative to the time and effort required, I tend to trade options with my fun money



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,007 ✭✭✭antimatterx


    Yeah you could very well be right, I just have a bad feeling about Q4. I could be wrong, if I could predict the future I'd be a rich man.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,929 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    I'm not saying it's easy, but way too many people go about buying shares the wrong way. Essentially you have to buy the company for less than what it is worth and what it is worth is the present value of future cash flows. You do this consistently and you will make money.

    Don't even look at the share price. Sit down and work out what you think the company is worth. Then you look at the share price. It's all about free cash flow. A company that isn't generating free cash flow today may do so in the future. Such companies can be either way over, or way under valued.

    'If I ventured in the slipstream, Between the viaducts of your dream'



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,438 ✭✭✭Shedite27


    Have people put much money into stocks this year? I've been accumulating cash truth be told, with 4% availale from Trade Republic it seems hard to ignore without any downside risk.

    One the flip side, I've always believed in DCA'ing so would love to have had the conviction to but more this year, most of teh companies I like are growth companies that have struggled this year with interest rates. Continuing to buy the likes of Crowdstrike, AirBnB, Spotify and Shopify, all big covd winners but companies I believe in will continue to grow over the next 10 years.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,335 CMod ✭✭✭✭Nody



    I've stuck to invest the same, or more, every year for a long while now and continue down that path. I don't think I, nor anyone else, can accuractly predict when things bottom out or where's the top. I've read plenty of bloggers bragging how they cashed out in 2020 because the market was due to crash and they would buy in at the low end again. I simply see it as averaging out over time and with a good risk spread over countries, sectors and companies along with index funds and let it ride. There's a fun post on what happend if you only invested at the peak here and the short answer is you still get ahead if you leave it on the market.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,186 ✭✭✭littlevillage


    There's been a glaring absence of any actual Share Picks on the "Share Picks 2023" thread for a while now.... But happy to report CRH is motoring along nicely on NYSE. Think my exchange price at NYSE listing time was about $54, now hovering around $59. Long may they run 🤞



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,335 CMod ✭✭✭✭Nody


    Depends what I'm building a position in; this year it's been in ASML, Kering, Hermes, LVMH, Moncier (yes, I've been building out my luxuary item portfolio because neuve rich always want to show off), Groep Brussel Lambert, Sonae SGPS & Kone in the main portfolios. Got some other smaller once that got Novo Nordisk, Investor, Hannover Rueck, Muenchener Rueckversicherungs Gesellschaft in Muenchen & Sibanye-Stillwater this year. Basically I set a target to invest (depending on the portfolio) up to a certain amount into a given stock I've identified I want to own; once the target has been achieved I either split further investments into existing stock or add a new stock to the buy list for the portfolio.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,281 ✭✭✭aidanki



    any chance of a bit of background info on why you choose all those, some interesting picks



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 522 ✭✭✭Stormington


    Not as much as during covid but I'm sticking to my energy (wiggle wiggle) plan and added to uranium and o&g services and will hop back into coal miners (likely non-US). Have added gold and lithium miner too. Eyeing up tankers. Have trimmed most tech and bailed on wind/solar as there's too many zombie companies to count and would not be surprised to see more fail with interest rates higher.

    I don't advocate DCA'ing like I used to as I prefer to go with a trend and buy things going higher. If your timeframe is far enough out it makes sense but there may be better places to generate a return and add to a position once it starts to move up.

    Thinking we get a vix pop/market drop then run into xmas. Might be wrong but have bought calls to cover myself.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,335 CMod ✭✭✭✭Nody



    One is to build up a luxuary portfolio started last year; basically a wide selection of luxuary companies with the top level brands that neuve rich are likely to know and buy. Not looking for subtle here but flashy and historical. I usually try to go for at least 3 to 4 companies in a sector where possible but in this case I'm up to I think 7 companies so far. The goal with them is really an long term hedge that rich people will remain rich and get richer and want to flaunt it. See the fake it until you make it rappers/influencers etc. as well to keep driving it home to a new generation along with the third generation millionaires from crypto and so on (grandfather slaves to make the money, father saw how is father worked and the son burns it all).

    Second is a set of investment companies spread over Europe; that's part of spreading out the risk as well as owning smaller companies in bulk. Don't claim to know which once are the best but looked at their ownership, ensuring the main companies they owned was things I liked (i.e. no service companies sounding like a dot com bubble idea or easily copied), making a healthy profit and history of paying dividend. Started from lists of European investment companies I found and worked my way through all companies creating a short list of what I wanted to pick up. I see investment companies basically like a small fund in the fact they usually own 10+ smaller entities (some or all may not be on the stock market in the first place) and let me diverse my investments without being stuck paying a hefty fee and give me geographical diversity.

    The final set are insurance which is a investment portfolio in that they always manages to come out ahead in the end. Kone came after a blog post highlighted it to me (they are big in elevators etc. and once you know about Kone you'll be surprised how often you see they have sold the elevators) and I liked the company idea. Sibanye was me having an idea of wanting to get into gold but not wanting to have to own the metal itself (worried I'd lose it/fake/stolen etc.) which I'll admitt has gone pearshaped on me (down some 35% or so) so far but it's sits there as part of diversification of asset types.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,339 ✭✭✭Markus Antonius


    Something really stinks about this market. In the last few months I have literally lost every gain I made over the past three years and losses further compounded. And yet if you look at the indices, they don't look so bad at all.

    Are the index providers faking the numbers to hide a market meltdown? Wouldn't surprise me one bit if there was an ETF bubble about to burst.

    Disclaimer: I have limited market knowledge do not make decisions off this view!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,438 ✭✭✭Shedite27


    The index' are heavily weighted by the top stocks. Some of the small cap or mid cap companies losing value sin't making a dent in it really.

    If you're invested in growth stocks,they're gonn struggle for a while IMO. I keep buying them as I'm sure those prices will look great in 5/10 years, but I can't imagine much growth in them in the next 2 years.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,929 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    The problem with ETFs and probably short term traders too is, the more money that goes into the market, the more prices rise above what they are actually worth. A bubble, if you like. Share prices are being driven up, not by fundamentals, but by the flow of money. I hear so many people on here say they are buying shares just because the price is going up. Crazy. The market has to correct itself eventually. That's what is happening now. A good time to buy, if you can spot value for money.

    Bank Of America at $25, 3M at $89 - just saying .........

    'If I ventured in the slipstream, Between the viaducts of your dream'



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,017 ✭✭✭cute geoge


    Anything in the iseq worth a look at

    Kerry jumps out at me at 70 ish ,they seemed to have some U.S. problems which hopefully are resolved ,there normally above 100 a good few years now and peaking around 120 so look a bit of value .

    Anybody else have any picks



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,186 ✭✭✭littlevillage


    Food production companies have to be a no brainer long term. Worlds population is rising and the amount of food the planet is able to produce might have peaked (arable land is actually dwindling due to Climate catastrophe).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 234 ✭✭Mach 3


    Maybe a bit premature, but is the last four days the start of a Santa rally?

    If so have you got your wishlist ready in your christmas sock? What you got?



  • Registered Users Posts: 53 ✭✭ctomas


    As I mentioned previously, my 2 investments were to add to my investments smurfit kappa and lending club this year so far, both bad decisions!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 234 ✭✭Mach 3


    Armstrong World Industries Inc (AWI)

    Strong earnings report share price has taken off the last two weeks. In breakout territory now, possible next leg up in share price over the next week or two.

    Norwegian Cruise Line Holdings Ltd (NCLH)

    Reasonable good earnings up 5% today on double the average 3 month volume.


    These were my two picks at the start of the year, (was I early or wrong? Who cares - it is the same thing) it was frustrating watching them go nowhere, but it looks like the 2 picks are in the Christmas sock for a nice prezzie.

    Just my opinion.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,967 ✭✭✭✭Thargor


    Degiros biggest gainers of the last 10 years, fair play to PLS, best stock I ever owned and got me into my first house this year, a life changer and still a good dividend stream, still a buy during the current dip imo:




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,933 ✭✭✭tesla_newbie


    Learned a hard lesson this past week and it’s that nobody know anything, while still invested heavily in equities, I thought I was clever reducing exposure this past six weeks and so had a significant cash position, what I saved was completely overturned by the sensational rise in the market this past week

    you might have a good run and make some good pre emotive trades but eventually you’re bet against the market bites you

    I still saw my portfolio increase by 3% since last Friday but much of that was down to the increase in my bond portfolio, the S+P rose over 5% in the past week, I also lost an amount shorting a particular stock this week that was equal to my entire gains shorting for 2013

    it’s ok to be humbled sometimes by the market, reminds you that you know far less than you thought



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    Everyone learns those lessons at some stage!

    You won't be as quick to make that mistake again.



  • Registered Users Posts: 808 ✭✭✭jams100


    Saw a good quote the other week:

    In the 20th Century the US endured two world wars and other traumatic and expensive military conflicts; the depression; a dozen or so recessions and financial panics; oil shocks; a flu epidemic; and the resignation of a disgraced president. Yet the Dow rose from 66 to 11,497. Warren Buffet

    Time in the markets beats timing the markets.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,933 ✭✭✭tesla_newbie


    I was waiting for the S+ P to drop another bit and offloaded quite a bit of Tesla in September when it was over $260 , while lightening the Tesla load was wise , doing the same with Amazon and Netflix wasn’t



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    Exactly. If I buy long I'm happy to not even look at it for 5+ years at least.

    People panic sell when they see big drops. These are buying opportunities quite often.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,526 ✭✭✭✭retalivity


    one-time favourite here GAN has been acquired by Sega for $107m. I was still holding a few shares in it, up 92% today.

    Although I am still down 60% on it overall!



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