Russian warship, go f**k yourself!

Sustainable or unsustainable,,if Russia defeats Ukraine, current losses will be minor compared to what Putin will inflict on Ukraine. And that's the bottom line. There arec no choices.

Poland seems to be coming to it's senses.

It also begs the bigger question of how could Ukraine be integrated with the EU/cap if they were to be ever let join

While myself and Putin both might not want to see Ukraine in the EU. It's for completely different reasons.

They will undermine food producers across the EU and nobody will care. We are increasingly unlikely to even receive any additional supports as compensation for such a move.

Wouldn't care really if Serbia or Georgia joined but I don't think the EU can absorb Ukraine without lots of us losing out in a big way and that's before taking into account that Europe's economy looks to be entering an increasingly difficult period.

Were you outside the Dail yesterday with the brethren

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Thanks, you gave me a great laugh when I saw that!

Glad someone copped it. @yosemitesam1 failed to get it

Your comments have a constant theme of gunning for Ukraine to fail based on bizarre personal views expressed here. Including that the EU shouldn't be helping Ukraine, nor should it become a member of the EU.

To use an analogy, if Ireland weren't a member and we were similarly invaded by Russia, and Irish people were being slaughtered, according to your views expressed here that would be "between Russia and Ireland", EU nations would "owe us nothing" and we certainly shouldn't be granted membership of the EU

Like we were in the past, Ukraine is a poor country, trying to join the EU. Unlike us, they are being blown to pieces for trying to do so. According to you they shouldn't getting the same opportunities we did, that EU countries shouldn't be supporting their neighbour while their graveyards fill up daily with people too young to die, that we abandon fellow Europeans in their time of need. Really strong European ideals and principles you're expressing there.

Commitments are there for years. This might take years.

They are reducing Russia's war machine (over 12k vehicles, aircraft, and equipment of all types so far) and reducing Putin's ability to invade themselves and other countries and territories (Moldova, Transnistria, Georgia, etc), and sapping the Russian will to invade (Ru increasingly relying on conscripts, prisoners). Unfortunately, Ukraine may not be able to liberate every inch of their territory, but that decision is up to them, as well as the decision to go to the table.

It's a huge cost for Ukraine in terms of sacrifice, blood, lives, but they didn't choose this situation, they did however chosen to defend themselves to give their people and children some sort of future, and that's what they are fighting for, as well as reclaiming as much of their homeland as they can.

Of course, if they had all this aid from the very beginning, with no limits, I strongly suspect Russia would be in a very much worse position.

There's been a high cost to us for appeasing Putin all these years, for being reliant on a dictator for our energy, for indirectly funding his war chest. Now we are paying the cost for his creeping invasion of Europe. It's a much lower cost than the Ukrainians are paying.

As for all the military stock in Europe, it was designed for this particular situation. They should send as much of it as they can, otherwise it's just sitting in warehouses.