Russia - threadbanned users in OP

This was queried on the previous page. Looks like the pipeline of support will not be impacted.

“The Pentagon will exempt its Ukraine operations from a potential shutdown if lawmakers can’t agree on a deal to fund the government by the end of the month, allowing key training and other activities in support of Kyiv’s forces to move ahead uninterrupted, according to a Defense Department spokesperson.”

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/09/21/pentagon-exempts-ukraine-operations-from-shutdown-00117482

NATO countries do not have an infinite supply of equipment and munitions,you might not agree but these are well documented facts ,the big donations of tanks, IFVs and other equipment will slow down to a trickle because NATO can't give what if doesn't already have

The yanks have thousands of vehicles in storage that they don't won't and never will use again .....even in the really slim chance that they have a land invasion. These vehicles will be sold into Ukraine one way or another . ......I do think that the us is holding off slightly in a way to shove european countries into properly upping its ability to rearm and defend itself.

And all these years I thought it was North of Spain and South of Belgique

The US have their supplies and stocks NATO and the EU not so much,but if your not defence industry has been whittled down to a handful of companies who only make to order rather than mass producing tens of thousands of military vehicles and various weapons systems, NATO countries will increase spending but with Russia no longer a threat to NATO that will see less spending on massive amounts of equipment and money on smarter and smaller systems ,

The best weapon system given to Ukraine is the Himars launchers,but they only received a handful of them, Poland Rocked up and ordered 480 launchers and several hundred other systems from south Korea,and 800 + modem tanks and hundreds of modem ifv for themselves,

20 Himars and a Similar number of other systems won't be enough to defeat Russia,but nobody in Europe is producing large numbers of similar systems so it's really down to America to supply the biggest amount of equipment something they have shown that they are not willing to do for whatever reason,

I believe it's Only a few Abrams arriving this month not the full 30 promised

Only a few Abrams tanks are arriving this month,

Shell munition supply to Ukraine is growing exponentially, Sweden will be jointly producing IFVs with Ukraine, Rheinmetall is setting up a complex in Ukraine. Military spending across Europe is rising dramatically. It's not just all about existing stock.

Ukraine doesn't have to "defeat" Russia, it just has to aid the Russian invasion force in defeating itself, through attrition. Not a simple task but not entirely impossible either. The signs are growing - Ru military having to field prisoners, use ageing equipment, rely on Iranian drones, using vehicle borne IEDs and asking the North Koreans for ammunition. Russia still has quantity, and production ability, and poor 50 yr untrained men who will sit in trenches for low pay - but I wonder how long for. There's a clock running for Russia also.

F35 arrives in Finland

In my opinion the poor performance of the Russian army in Ukraine has actually lowered the level of urgency to ramp up defence spending in western countries particularly on the western side of Europe. If the Russians were rampaging through western Ukraine and approaching the borders of Romania and Moldova etc the level of urgency would be many times different. The static front lines and pathetic offensive ability of the Russian army is paradoxically working in their favour as regards many people and countries seeing them as an existential threat, which they still very much are. And their more hybrid operations are yielding far better results than their military ones. And very few people can see that or make the connections which makes it a very dangerous situation.

On defence spending the 4 biggest spenders in Europe last and this year is Germany, France,UK and Ukraine

Some of their actions would certainly seem in line with this theory. Wear down the Russian military but not fast enough for them to call it quits.

Send tanks and other armoured vehicles but in the double digits.

As regards the Poles, the seem to be continuing to supply Krab Howitzers and Wolverine IFVs. Which are at least partially funded by the EU & the US.

So imagine some of the "noise" lately is just electioneering season.