General British politics discussion thread

That was until the Tory government that came after them screwed the fire service even more.

Fire stations were closing all over the country under Cameron.

victim blaming as the sinking of the belgrano was a breach of international law and not a legitimate act of war, and they were simply taking back their own territory.

it was outside the conflict zone and was damaged such that it would not have been able to re-enter the war unless it perhapse lasted years, which both sides knew that wouldn't be the case.

any line of attack will do when it comes to thatcher, she deserves everything she gets and should be shown in as bad of light as is possible, all of the time, every time.

I'm not so sure the UK would be as willing to go to war over the Falklands these days. They've become a lot more inward and nationalist in outlook.

Having said that, the Tory Brexit regime would probably go to war alright but for purely cynical PR reasons and not because they give a flying fig about the Falklands or the people who live there.

it was a breach of international law and has been recognised as such as the ship was not only way outside the conflict zone, but was no longer capable of war without serious repair, meaning those on it were victims.

the ship was heavily damaged, uncapable of further war without substantial repair which would have taken a serious amount of time meaning it would never have reentered the war anyway unless it had lasted a substantial amount of time which it wasn't ever going to.

the argentines did nothing wrong, they were simply taking back part of their country.

to be fair starmer needs to absolutely get out there and show this.

he needs to put together policies and stick to them, and stop running scared of the daily mail.

he is ahead thankfully but a win is not guaranteed and those who believe they are all the same may be the difference between at worst losing, or at best him just scraping past the post in the end.

as i said i really hope he has some ace up his slieve that he is holding back until the last minute, that he will use to absolutely destroy the tories on election day.

yes it's a strange one, especially as those who would vote tory now would never vote for labour anyway, no matter what.

old school tories and even 2010 tories would be more likely to vote lib dem perhapse.

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The...ahem..."Labour" Party.

The British, and by that I mean the English, are a naturally conservative people. So they'll be inclined to vote Tory or Tory lite.

The only time they've ever truly ventured into "meaningful change" with regards to social aspects was after the war when they voted in Atlee's cabinet.

You might well see a 'vast chasm' but I don't think any Labour Policies, that they've stuck to, supports a 'vast chasm' between the two.

Starmer will be better than the Tories and I would imagine (hope) they'll be more dynamic once in power, but the Greens, SNP, Lib Dems, 'others' will all be banging the same drum that Labour offer no change at the next election, and rather than just being upset that people are saying it, they need to show they're not the same.

They were all abysmal ideas by the Tories, agree 100% but what hugely different policies have Labour put forward to end austerity? What policies are they suggesting with regard to Brexit, because they've categorically stated they aren't rejoining the EU.