Dublin dail protests - read OP before posting

I agree. I think that there is a 'lot of anger' being expressed but only by a minority who are psychologically disposed to do so in a scattergun nihilistic way . Most people may feel some element of annoyance and frustration with how systems work so slowly and inefficiently ( myself included) but choose other more effective means of dealing with what confronts them. In fact many people who broadly support the current administration are extremely irritated that the government is so inept at explaining complicated policies before the opposition can set the agenda with all kinds of exaggerations and misrepresentations...e.g. the general level of communication about immigration has been woefully inadequate.

Mass immigration would be 100k refugees in a year to a country with a population of 5 million. 8.5k landing on an island with a population of 7k. Immigrants would include people with visas and jobs that have to take care of themselves, that’s completely different to refugees that rely on the state to be feed and housed. Though they both need to be managed, infrastructure and planning is needed but refugees are completely different to legal migrants that will take care of themselves but you know this from all the threads you post in, you are just wilfully playing dumb, again. I’ve a real sense of deja vu.

1.5m Irish born people are also living abroad currently. Would that be 'mass' emigration then?

You're a broken record, literally saying the same thing over and over. Comparative analysis is useless unless it's used in regard to problem solving. It doesn't matter how many have left, as they are gone, what matters to most of us is what's happening in the now on our little Island.

To answer your question, of course it is "mass", but what is your point exactly? Like I said they are the ones that have left, we are the ones who are here, and have a right to a say in the direction of our nation, even if people like you have nothing but disdain for that. And before you get to voting, a lacking of faith in democratic systems has been growing in the West for a long time, which is a nod to the fact that many think that our problems cannot be solved through modern political mechanisms for various reasons.

"Ireland summons her children to take back their liberty"

Can anyone explain to me what this phrase means? What liberties have the children of Ireland lost?

Being built on it, doesn't make it acceptable now.

Either we accept this is the way of the future and get used to it, or we do not.

There are plenty of other ways when peoples' backs are against the wall and history is littered with successful peaceful protests - the Berlin Wall fell without a bullet being fired. What's needed is some mass civil disobedience, but the people in volved yesterday don't have the mental capacity for it.

The liberrty to lord it over someone you disagree with, tell lies about them and restrict their freedoms becuase you disagree with them and aren't intelligent enough to express it wihtout looking like a moron.

Most democracies were conceived on the foundation of violent protest and revolution, however, most democracies that were overthrown were also overthrown by violent protest and revolution, the rise of Nazi Germany being one example, various military coups around the world are others, etc.

For Ireland, the question is, as we have a functioning democracy, a government elected by the majority of votes and voters, what purpose does physical violence achieve other than put the democracy at risk?

Who are they?

Great ambition but not much chance of that though is there -when so many of the Irish people don't want to pay taxes -no TV licence for PS broadcasting , no water charges , no property tax. Hand out for free everything. Where do they think services and resources come from -they have to be funded and paid for -by the people who want them and use them.

We'd be properly goosed if it were not for the money that comes in from big tech and big pharma.

People can agree with why the protest is happening but not agree with what happens within the protest itself.

It's why people see a difference between BLM (fighting for equality) and the Jan 6 riots (conspiracy theory looney toons), the violence in both was wrong, the reason why it was happening was completely bonkers for the Jan 6 riots (understanding that some people take advantage of riots to do stupid things like looting).

Similar here with the Dáil, the lunatic violent protests get dealt with and no one cares because their reasons for protesting are demented. It's why Murphy overstepped the mark by trapping someone in a car, the message of the protest got lost in the shenanigans that went on.

We proved several times that you responded to a poster who never mentioned a specific group and who wasn't replying to anyone else.

And there's my point - you're not cabale of expressing a point without lying. Not the right, you.

We're done here - I've nothing left to prove.

We have first world services, move to Syria, Eritrea or somewhere like that if you think our services are bad.

Garda Commissioner to carry out an investigation into Dail security I see.

Will they seek advice from Paul Murphy on the tactics of these scumbags? He has a good insight into this behaviour.