So UFOs aren't a theory anymore - but we still don't know what they are

Wrong again. He said Lt Coyne had been drinking with absolutely no evidence for that.

Around we go again.

That was an illustration of the kind of mundane explanations that are always behind these kind of stories.

There's a bunch it could be. I suggested several. You don't want to acknowledge those however and are swinging around again to your same misrepresentations.

This needs to go in every now and again to bring down the smuggness levels

Everyone knows the pictures/videos/witness testimony available to the public are not conclusive. Though the weight of testimony is compelling (hours of video here). Reliable eye witness testimony is enough to convict in courts of law. Stop infering someone looked at a grainy photo and announced "aliens".

THIS is the conspiracy theory : There IS better evidence, it is being concealed.

One of the CENTRAL facts revealed from the recent Senate hearing was that a man at the center of the UAP investigation swore under oath that he believes there is better evidence and it is being concealed, not to provide evidence there and then.

Remember until 2017 there was no formal government UFO investigations and there was no secret videos, all denied until subsequently called out in the New York Times article.

**Sigh*** I posted "he believes". The statement is true.

Whether the core of what he believes ( that there IS better evidence and it is being concealed ) is true remains to be seen.

Everyone knows the pictures/videos/witness testimony available to the public are not conclusive. Though the weight of testimony is compelling (hours of video here). Reliable eye witness testimony is enough to convict in courts of law. Stop infering someone looked at a grainy photo and announced "aliens".

THIS is the conspiracy theory : There IS better evidence, it is being concealed.

One of the CENTRAL facts revealed from the recent Senate hearing was that a man at the center of the UAP investigation swore under oath that he believes there is better evidence and it is being concealed, not to provide evidence there and then.

Remember until 2017 there was no formal government UFO investigations and there was no secret videos, all denied until subsequently called out in the New York Times article.

We know.

The evidence is being concealed.

THIS is the conspiracy theory : There IS better evidence, it is being concealed.

If there was indisputable public evidence, it wouldn't be a conspiracy theory.

Mountains of it. Do some research.

So much the US set up a task force to investigate UAP. In a recent report by that task force :

"And a Handful of UAP Appear to Demonstrate Advanced Technology In 18 incidents, described in 21 reports, observers reported unusual UAP movement patterns or flight characteristics. Some UAP appeared to remain stationary in winds aloft, move against the wind, maneuver abruptly, or move at considerable speed, without discernable means of propulsion. In a small number of cases, military aircraft systems processed radio frequency (RF) energy associated with UAP sightings. The UAPTF holds a small amount of data that appear to show UAP demonstrating acceleration or a degree of signature management. Additional rigorous analysis are necessary by multiple teams or groups of technical experts to determine the nature and validity of these data. We are conducting further analysis to determine if breakthrough technologies were demonstrated"

Everything I know of has been mundane so therefore everything will continue to be mundane. Nice reasoning.

Strangely Governments continue to investigate and the below is just whats public. Its as if theres something more to it.

Brazil[edit]

• Operação Prato

Canada[edit]

• Project Magnet

France[edit]

• GEPAN / SEPRA / GEIPAN

Soviet Union[edit]

• Institute 22

United Kingdom[edit]

• Flying Saucer Working Party
• Project Condign

United States[edit]

• Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program
• Roswell UFO incident
• Brookings Report
• Condon Committee
• Estimate of the Situation
• Project Blue Book
• Project Grudge
• Project Serpo
• Project Sign
• Project Silver Bug
• Robertson Panel
• All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO)
• NASA's UAP independent study team

Uruguay[edit]

• Uruguayan Air Force Commission for the Reception and Investigation of Complaints of Unidentified Flying Objects (CRIDOVNI)[1]

Everyone knows the pictures/videos/witness testimony available to the public are not conclusive. Though the weight of testimony is compelling (hours of video here). Reliable eye witness testimony is enough to convict in courts of law. Stop infering someone looked at a grainy photo and announced "aliens".

THIS is the conspiracy theory : There IS better evidence, it is being concealed.

One of the CENTRAL facts revealed from the recent Senate hearing was that a man at the center of the UAP investigation swore under oath that he believes there is better evidence and it is being concealed, not to provide evidence there and then.

Remember until 2017 there was no formal government UFO investigations and there was no secret videos, all denied until subsequently called out in the New York Times article.

Ha ha ha.. look I found a bullshit investigation.

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These are for the most part evidence of evidence. QED.

Everyone knows the pictures/videos/witness testimony available to the public are not conclusive. Though the weight of testimony is compelling (hours of video here). Reliable eye witness testimony is enough to convict in courts of law. Stop infering someone looked at a grainy photo and announced "aliens".

THIS is the conspiracy theory : There IS better evidence, it is being concealed.

One of the CENTRAL facts revealed from the recent Senate hearing was that a man at the center of the UAP investigation swore under oath that he believes there is better evidence and it is being concealed, not to provide evidence there and then.

Remember until 2017 there was no formal government UFO investigations and there was no secret videos, all denied until subsequently called out in the New York Times article.

Whats the red flag EXACTLY ?

Tim Burchett (01:19:17):

Thank you. Mr. Chairman, I’m going to direct this I believe to Mr. Grusch, but if any of you all feel like you need to jump in just jump right and we’re good. Has the US government become aware of actual evidence of extraterrestrial otherwise unexplained forms of intelligence? And if so, when do you think this first occurred?

David Charles Grusch (01:19:35):

I like to use the term non-human, I don’t like to denote origin. It keeps the aperture open both scientifically.

Tim Burchett (01:19:42):

Right.

David Charles Grusch (01:19:44):

Certainly like I’ve discussed publicly, previously 1930s.

Tim Burchett (01:19:49):

Okay. Can you give me the names and titles of the people with direct firsthand knowledge and access to some of these crash retrieval programs and maybe which facilities, military bases that the recovered material would be in? I know a lot of Congress talked about we’re going to go to Area 51 and there’s nothing there anymore anyway, and we move like a glacier and as soon as we announce it I’m sure the moving vans would pull up. But please.

David Charles Grusch (01:20:20):

I can’t discuss that publicly, but I did provide that information both to the Intel committees and the Inspector General.

Tim Burchett (01:20:25):

We could get that in the skiff if we were allowed to get in a skiff with yo?. Would that be probably what you would think?

David Charles Grusch (01:20:31):

Sure, if you had the appropriate accesses. Yeah.

Sorry what is your proof that this is false. I've seen youtube video and some debunking but I'd be interested in your proof that the US government did NOT become aware of actual evidence of extraterrestrial in the 1930s.

Thought you would dodge that .. funny when the shoes on the other foot. The link not prove ANYTHING.

It only takes one recovered craft to prove the conspiracy theory, and apparently theres lots of them.

We know its not fairies King, I'd say your devastated.

And I've learned not to engage with those who spout religious bullshit. Or those with a very obvious mental illness. Or, indeed, those with a delicious combination of the two (quite common).