The emergence of "Zombie" by The Cranberries as an Irish sporting anthem

Seems like some people on twitter are fans of terrorists who blew up innocent children in Britian. Madness. The vast majority of decent Irish people both North and South found the murder of innocent British civilians abhorrent. Not to mention that Andy Farrell grew up not too far from Warrington and would have been about 18 at the time.

These people shouldn't be giving oxygen. Best of to leave them live in their black and white simplistic world where British = bad and Irish = good.

If ever there was an example of why social media is rotting society, this is it. I'm fairly sure Delores O'Riordan abhorred all violence committed by all sides.

The truth is Zombie and what it's about is as far removed and as alien to the 20 to 40 year old "craic merchants" singing it in the Stade de France as The Fields of Athenry and the famine have always been to match goers over the last 30 to 40 years.

It's a song that lends itself well to thousands of voices. It's older than most people singing it. It's passed into modern Irish music folklore. That's about it.

The killing of those two children in Warrington doesn't fit into the narrative that the 'Ra had to defend nationalists in the north. That might be one reason why this is getting up the noses of some. I was a teenager when the Warrington bombing happened so I have some memory of what the reaction to it was like at the time. People had grown accustomed to hearing about shootings, bombings and punishment beatings on the news every other day but this atrocity was so awful, it stood out. Ordinary Irish people were appalled at the time and were troubled by atrocities like this being carried out in their name. You can tear the lyrics of Zombie apart if you want but they're broadly in line with what a lot of people were thinking 29 years ago. A lot has changed since and we shouldn't try to analyze this with 2023 eyes.

The movie about Colin and Wendy Parry and Warrington and the peace campaigner Susan McHugh (I forget the name of it but it was shown on the BBC and RTE) touches on the fact that northern nationalists were angry at McHugh for focussing in on only republican violence and ignoring what the British and loyalists were doing.

But that largely ignores the fact that the IRA were supposedly operating on behalf of the Irish nation and the Irish people, whereas the British weren't, and McHugh was arguably well within her rights to call for a halt to the IRA's activities.

I think it's widely accepted that the PIRA shouldn't have sunk to the levels of the British side in the war. But you have to remember the circumstances at the time. Loyalists, the ruc and the British armed forces were teaming up together to not only attack Nationalists, beat them in their homes and to discriminate against them but they murdered large numbers of innocents, over 1,000 between them.

There were thoughts from some that Britain deserved a taste of their own medicine. This was wrong, innocent British people didn't deserve to die because of the actions of their armed forces. It has to be said though, for the most part, the PIRA stuck with targeting active combatants. It was a nasty, dirty war, like all wars but the PIRA fought the cleaner war. It's easy for those in the south to criticise while knowing very little about what northern Nationalists had to go through.

Thankfully, the truth of the war is more widely known now, people have more access to the facts and the media lies and spin can easily be brushed aside.

Neither did this fit into the narrative.

Murder of Jean McConvilleWikipediahttps://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Murder_of_Jean_Mc...

the chap is simply expressing an opinion.

that doesn't make him a moron, even if he is incorrect.

Anhran na bhFiann is the national anthem of the 32 county republic, and upon reunification it will be the national anthem of said 32 county republic as intended.

your last sentence is a disgraceful allegation and you should do the decent thing and withdraw it as it's an abomination to make such a claim.

I'm not sure what your argument is. I'm not arguing for the national anthem only to be played.

Both the national anthem and Ireland's Call are played at the Aviva.

It should be the same at the world cup.

Because it's our national anthem.

Because some muppet says so.

That's not what Miss Piggy whispered in my ear last night.

there is going to be a 32 county republic, the only thing that prevented it was an illegal occupation to keep a military presence on the island of ireland by the occupiers and to have a small bunch of useful fall guys to back up the british government and who can be thrown under the bus once no longer useful.

over all the PIRA were a necessary evil against an empirial mindset which refused to deal with the reality of what was created in northern ireland by partition.

your scued view of history was discredited and debunked, and your allegation against those who have an issue with the song being sung is false.

no, the irish team comprises 1 nation, part of which is under occupation.

britain comprises 3 nations so god save the king is not the true national anthem, just the national anthem of the united 3 as a whole.

ultimately the actual national anthems of the individual nations are the true and real national anthems.

People way overthinking this

I’d say the majority of the people in crowds singing it are completely unaware of any political connotations of the song, it’s like 30 years old

They're just singing a song, not making a statement

Somebody posting their personal opinions on twitter, who cares? Ive no problem with singing up the RA or Zombie, maybe it's my cognitive dissonance but for me context is everything.