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Clare GAA Discussion - 2024 All Ireland Hurling Champions

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,119 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    a really good call from the county board , to be fair i was over on the limerick page not long ago singing the same mans prises , he done a serious job with them in such a short notice

    a few lads chickened out of the clare job because we will be down a few lads next year , A long term mistake if you ask me ,



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,274 ✭✭✭Figerty




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,119 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson



    david Clifford in fairness is a different animal to any other player in the country, you cant compare our standard to that , i am talking about the other 20 to 25 championships outside the likes of kerry , dublin ,galway , mayo or tyrone ect...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,274 ✭✭✭Figerty


    That's true.. you are right.. that video is the Kerry Intermediate championship!



  • Posts: 0 ✭✭ Elisha Clean Sulfur


    the Eire Og senior footballers coach Seanie Buckley will be the coach to the Clare senior footballers for 2024, as incoming manager Mark Fitzgerald continues to add to his management team. Mark will be ratified to become Colm Collins’ successor at a Clare county board September meeting tonight.



  • Registered Users Posts: 586 ✭✭✭Treble double


    Buckley has some job done with the townies back to back county titles and hard to see them being beaten for the 3 in a row, Fitzgerald might not be high profile but that is a great coach to have on his ticket.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,252 ✭✭✭Sterling Archer


    This weekends Clare Gaa TV games









    Senior Hurling Draws









    Management teams for 2024 ratified this evening for Clare

    Senior Hurling: Brian Lohan (full backroom team TBC next month)

    Senior football: Mark Fitzgerald for 2 years, with Seanie Buckley head coach. Others TBC

    U20 football: Michael Neylon

    U20 hurling: Terence Fahy

    Minor football: Dermot Coughlan with Joe Hayes as coach

    Minor hurling: Brian O’Connell



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,846 ✭✭✭✭callaway92


    Tempted to back the Éire Óg Football/Hurling Double.

    If they beat Clonlara in the Hurling they'll win it out. Especially if it's Shane O'Donnell's swansong for the immediate future I can see it happening.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,846 ✭✭✭✭callaway92


    Hearing Conor Dolan and Wolfe Tones have parted ways before their Relegation Match!

    Have to say, he has an incredibly high turnover rate in the roles he’s been in. Wouldn’t know much about him personally etc.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 719 ✭✭✭caddy16


    I wouldn't be so sure on the hurling. While a lot pf the big guns are gone I still think there are a few club left who could take them down.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,119 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    Dolan done well at short notice last year with the mills to save their season,

    Lots of stories coming out of Wolfe tones lately, I wouldn't read too much into it

    This type of stuff happens a lot of teams when they find themselves in relegation trouble with a few weeks to prepare for a play off ,

    But there's no doubt up to now Wolfe tones have been way below par



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,764 ✭✭✭funnyname


    Surely Corofin will get a rematch, Ennistymon player took two bounces in the play leading up to the goal.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,274 ✭✭✭Figerty


    The referee calls it on the day. If there wasn't a call made, the goal will stand.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,151 ✭✭✭PeggyShippen


    Interesting draw in the hurling. The big one does seem to be Clonlara v Eire Og and there is a hint of the 'if not now,when' for both clubs. Clonlara seem to be on abit of a mission this year like Eire Og were last year. Both clubs won't like to hear this but both are terrible when there's a degree of expectation around them . Makes for a fascinating game. Eire Og child sneak it but then they ll probably lose to an underdog next day out. The dark horse is Feakle , a good draw. Kilmaley are no great shakes . Outside of them 3 I don't see a winner..Newmarket probably don't have the squad but they still play the most stylish hurling in the county...they remain the Tipperary of Clare but without the top top players.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 719 ✭✭✭caddy16


    Newmarket play the most stylish hurling?? You obviously don't watch club hurling in Clare.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,151 ✭✭✭PeggyShippen


    Well iv only seen 3 games this year and some of it was turgid stuff. Clonlara play good hurling... The likes of Ballyea are dire to watch.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,252 ✭✭✭Sterling Archer


    6 games on Clare Gaa TV this weekend, so with the Clonlara vs Eire Óg game on TG4 that's 7 games which is great

    Saturday

    Wolfe tones vs Doora Barefield - Relagation

    Feakle vs Kilmaley

    Scariff vs Clooney

    Sunday

    Clarecastle vs the mills - Relegation

    Newmarket vs Crusheen

    Tulla vs Whitegat - Intermediate

    Clonlara vs Eire Óg - TG4



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,846 ✭✭✭✭callaway92


    Who'd be expecting to be relegated?

    Is it as cut-and-dry as Doora Barefield and Clarecastle surely going down?



  • Registered Users Posts: 719 ✭✭✭caddy16


    I've a feeling Barefield will beat Wolfe Tones. Hard to see anything other than a Mills win in the other one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,119 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    proper excitement building up to the 1/4 finals this week , the championship so far has been a little like the rugby world cup group stage where you cant wait for it to end and the real stuff to begin

    Feakle v Kilmaley

    really close game this both teams have great weapons in the scoring stakes , gearoid o'grady and daire keane for kilmaley can be brilliant on their day but given the nature of the defensive system they are about to face you cant imagine that they will struggle against the likes of adam hogan or oisin clune or con smyth , if they are to get over the line big games are required for the two mikey's , o malley and o'neill ,

    in truth this game will come down to discipline and free taking , shane mcgrath will probably miss nothing so the kilmaley backs cant afford to give too much away , i done a 4 team Acca at the weekend this game didnt enter the bet as its too close to call , the head seas feakle the heart says my neighbours

    Scariff v clooney/quin

    some tie this could be , the future of clare hurling embedded in both teams , mark rodgers , the two crottys patrick ryan , keelan hartigan and diarmuid nash have all been top class for the east clare men , willie kavanagh outside of eamon foudy has been the best club keeper of the championship so its hard to separate them with a team that possesses the likes of peter duggan , john coneeley , jack o'neill , jimmy corry john cahill or evan maxted

    clooney will probably stack up the county panel with a number of these players in the next few years but the nod goes to scariff , in fact they have a huge chance over all in wining it out , ignore the kilmaley defeat they were through already ,clooney's only defeat was hampered by some terrible referring by john bugler but they wont become propper contenders until ryan taylor returns , scariff for me

    Clonlara v Eire Og

    clon have been the best team in the championship this year , and the emergence of the younger lads like the mcmahon brothers or the two o loughlins have made a huge difference this year , the performances of john conlon in particular back in the half forward line has being a driving force this year too

    eire og have all th eingredients of a munster challenge let alone a clare challenge with the likes of shane o'donnell , oisin cahill , david reidy and arron fitz in the ranks but question marks still hang over the set up and the group they struggled to come out of was th eweakest of the 4

    clonlara got a scare against the mills in day one but have looked the business since , i expect them to win

    Newmarket v Crusheen

    the forecast for the weekend is proper crusheen weather , but all signs point to a newmarket win and a serious challenge for a first county championship in 11 years

    enna crimmins ,mikey mcinerney and peter power have been outstanding this year for the blues ,throw in the experience of colin ryan , enda barrett and the two guilfoyles its hard to see crusheen stay with them

    crusheen were excellent in their win over the mills who beat sixmilebridge and lost narrowly to clonlara , only a repeat performance will be good enough here

    relegation

    St Josephs D/B v Wolfe tones

    its hard to look past the parrish here with all the stuff going on in shannon at the moment , the loss of conor dolan is huge in its self , from electric picnics to giving athenry a walk over in a preparation challenge match to lads favoring football its a total mess , on paper shannon should be in the last 8, barefield looked the more competitive in the group stage with out either side picking up a win , barefield for me

    O'C Mills v Clarecastle

    the clare cup champions should never be in this mess , had rocky cooneys shot being an inch lower v clonlara in week 1 , the mills would probably be in the last 8 now ,they are a solid staddy side with bags of experience , a fine win over sixmilebridge tha last day out and a good year over all bar the crusheen game it looks like only one outcome here

    if clarecastle do go down the penny might finally drop for one of the best clubs in the county and what lies ahead for the next ten years , if they use it the right way they can return to where they once were ,but a long patient transition is needed in the club, mills for me here



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,119 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    Barefield

    Scariff

    O'C Mills

    Clonlara

    is the 12/1 acca this weekend i am going for



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,846 ✭✭✭✭callaway92


    Interesting. 3 underdog bets out of 4 matches. Might follow you on that for the fun of it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,119 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    Feckin scariff won in extra time, I hope you didn't 🙈😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,846 ✭✭✭✭callaway92


    Actually forgot about it come midday!

    Good picking so far (albeit a draw for Scariff)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,119 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    great day of hurling in fairness, to be fair to scariff they are a fine side but clooney have a fine team on the way up and looked the better team for most of it today , a bit like the rugby tonight it was a messy game but loads of excitement rodgers carried them over the line with 3-12 out of 3-19 joe canning stuff

    we were building the guy up at u15 level on here , he's a fantastic hurler and a humble lad as well,

    clooney put john coneeley on him today , when rodgers drifted out to the 40 he got no joy off him but don serious damage inside , coneeley is my replacement for john conlon when he retires the 6

    feakle are scariffs biggest threat in my opinion because of adam hogan, today he put in some show against kilmaley ,feakle dont lake guts , defenders or big men , but they lack a few scoring options up front but have enough to stop a team especially if that team is your next door neighbour , id fancy scariff against clonlara/eire og or newmarket/crusheen any day of the week

    conor dolan was on the line for shannon today , we get a lot of mixed messages about them up here in kilmihil , there is a bit of a duel in the intermediate championship in football at the moment and we heard all these stories,

    the one takeaway from newmarket today is they were not fit , even the inter county players were not , they didnt start playing until the last 10 or 15 minutes and even that seemed half hearted , somthing is not right in shannon at the moment and today showed , davey conry was class for barefield



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,008 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    Shannon and Clarecastle down to intermediate. 2 of the largest clubs in the county with some of the best facilities in the middle of their parish.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,344 ✭✭✭keeponhurling


    How does the referee decide whether the pitch is playable or not ? Looks like there are actually puddles on the Cusack Park pitch.

    I know it's the same for both teams so all fair from that perspective, but hardly a great spectacle.....



  • Registered Users Posts: 796 ✭✭✭French Toast


    Puddles splashing with each step in parts. Very soupy looking.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,344 ✭✭✭keeponhurling


    Good win for Crusheen, beating NOF 3-7 to 1-7. They join Feakle and Scariff in the semi finals.

    Clonlara leading Eire Og at half time, 1-6 to 0-7.

    It's all wide open really.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,344 ✭✭✭keeponhurling


    Clonlara getting a well deserved win in the end, 1-14 to 0-14. John Conlon was excellent, scored 5 points.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 675 ✭✭✭supernova5


    what a colossus Conlan is, the amount of work he got through was just incredible, 3 points scored under vey trying conditions and under huge pressure from defenders

    impossible to call an outright winner now but I would say Scariff and Clonlara are the better hurling teams but that wont necessarily win you anything



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,119 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    conlon is some warrior in fairness , you would love to see clonlara win it out now just for him alone , going to be a very intresting draw tomorrow evening



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,344 ✭✭✭keeponhurling


    does Conlon have a county medal ?

    (in other words was he playing back in 2008 for Clonlara seniors?)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,119 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    yeah he played in 2008 , but deserves another one i think



  • Posts: 0 ✭✭ Elisha Clean Sulfur


    Was Mattie Shannon on the sideline today for Eire Og? Who was wearing the banisteoir bib for the townies today? Clonlara's workrate this year has been one of the talking points this year's county championship. Fighting for every ball and playing for the jersey has been a huge part of their wins to date this campaign. Fair play to the Clonlara manager Donal Madden who has got the best out of the South East Clare men so far.

    In what could be his swansong year for the banner county next year, isn't it great to see John Conlon in such inspired form for Clonlara. One of Clare's greats and an gentleman to boot. As for the townies I feel the lack of quality ball to Shane O'Donnell was a huge source of frustration for the Eire Og supporters and team. Oran Cahill did not look 100% right and him and Shane O Donnell were reportedly struggling with injury in the lead up to today's game at a rain drenched Park.

    Breffni Horner should be on Brian Lohan's radar after a quality performance both on and off the ball for Crusheen in their deserved 6 point win over Newmarket on Fergus. Ross Hayes a towering figure and the evergreen Cian Dillon along with Gerry O'Grady and Fergal Kennedy proving that age is no barrier for the Crusheen warriors.

    In the intermediate championship today Corofin ran out 5 point winners over Smith O Briens. The Ruan v Parteen game was called off due to the poor weather. But to me the real winners to come out of this weekend's club championships were Tulla. A brilliant total of 4-20 in monsoon conditions v Whitegate, an 18 point win for the men of the windswept hills. They have leapfrogged Corofin as favorites to return to senior club hurling for 2024 imo.

    O Callaghans Mills were 3 point winners over Clarecastle in the relegation play-off. But not for the first time, referee Joe Mullins made headlines for all the wrong reasons. Some very dubious calls made by the Clonlara official throughout the game which particularly incensed the magpies. Very surprised that Mullins continues to get big championship games, he is a poor ref.

    Thoughts now turn to next weekend's football. Can St Breckans continue their progression and seal a place in the county football final against a resurgent Miltown St Joseph's team who will have Eoin Cleary back after his cameo from off the bench against Kildysart. Or will the scars of today leave the defending Jack Daly champions Eire Og in a bit bother against a battle hardened Cratloe team lead by the brilliant Cathal McInerney.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,119 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    not sure who was on the line , shannon was there though, clonlara have a fine balance of experience and youth , they deserve it on their performances this year , but nothing set in stone yet

    horner was always a promising player , i always expected him to at least make a provisional squad for the munster league at least , but they are a tough side crusheen on their day they can be as good as anyone , probably age and lack of consistency is against them


    a great win for tulla for sure very impressive that win makes them favorites now , bodyke were looking good up to yesterday , an argument knocking around all year that a lot of that bridge side should be playing senior

    as regards the ref in the clarecastle game , for as long as you leave the game up to the referees interpretation the worse it is for the gaa , i didn't see the game today but are their two referees the same in the county , some referees let everything go others are whistle happy , there is no consistency at the moment and its from dublin the directive needs to be shown , instead of passing the buck down

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,557 ✭✭✭Uncle Pierre


    Interloper from Wexford here again.

    A question I meant to ask a few weeks back when looking at your Senior Hurling tables in connection with the Sixmilebridge thing - why were there 17 teams in your championship this year?

    Is it still some sort of 'hangover' from Covid? (In Wexford, we normally have 12 teams in senior, but there was no relegation in one of the Covid years, so we ended up with 13 teams in the championship the following year). Or is there some other reason?



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,008 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    Ronan Cooney was on the line, he's a selector, I would have thought if Matt Shannon wasn't available that Gerry O'Connor would have been there considering his expierence. Shannon is involved with Corofin as well so might have been double jobbing.

    Bringing on Cian O'Dea wasn't a great look by Eire Og.



  • Registered Users Posts: 172 ✭✭roashter


    There was no one relegated last year due to an objection lodged, so two were relegated this year.

    Probably 12 teams would be enough for senior, but there wouldn't be much apatite to vote for it so will probably stay at 16 for the foreseeable future.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,309 ✭✭✭evolvingtipperary101


    Brendan Bugler and Tommy Corbett are joining the Clare management ticket for 2024



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,008 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    That was 2 years ago, plan is to go from 18 to 16 which is taking longer than it should.

    I've been saying we've just about 12 senior clubs, there's a few just happy to stay in senior but looking at the quarter finalists and some of the other clubs left in I say leave it at 16 with 4 groups of 4 for a while.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,557 ✭✭✭Uncle Pierre


    Thanks for the explanations, lads.

    We used to have 16 teams in senior in Wexford (four groups of four) but it's been just 12 teams (two groups of six) since 2012, apart from how it operated differently during the couple of 'Covid Championships'.

    Wasn't as heavily involved in admin back then as I am now, so honestly don't know how they got clubs to accept a proposal that saw four of them relegated out of senior. But I do know that 12 teams works well here - going back up to 16 would really just be putting in cannon fodder of teams who really should be intermediate, and whose only realistic hope in senior would be to escape relegation by virtue of being 14th or 15th best out of 16.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,274 ✭✭✭Figerty


    O'Dea didn't bring anything to the game and gave away two crucial frees. It's a bad sign they had to bring him back to fill a hole and didn't solve it.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,008 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    Bad sign when he's just back off the plane and is put out on the pitch ahead of lads who trained all year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,252 ✭✭✭Sterling Archer


    https://twitter.com/GaaClare/status/1706386943863382257


    It's happening, Feakle vs Scariff final



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,119 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    World war 3 you mean 😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,151 ✭✭✭PeggyShippen


    Wexford club hurling is fairly weak at the moment though. In Clare there's an even spread among the clubs...probably 16 works well enough. Limerick went a different route with their system and that works for them. They seem to get alot right.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 675 ✭✭✭supernova5


    would fall a long way short of the old firm NOF/ Clarecastle back in the day😋☺️



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,274 ✭✭✭Figerty


    That day has been gone for quite a while! Dynamics change.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,008 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    Clubs won't vote to drop the number of senior clubs so there isn't much point in suggesting it just embrace the 4 groups of 4 for a few years.



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