The emergence of "Zombie" by The Cranberries as an Irish sporting anthem

Why did you claim it was the Disney version then? The CAIN website backs up everything I've said. The PIRA were the good guys in an awful war. Why do you condone the killing of innocent Irish people?

You are not prepared to condemn the murder of innocent children. No more needs to be said. Before you pontificate about others look in the mirror.

Why should I answer such a ridiculous question when you refuse to answer any directed at you?

Condemning the murder of innocent children is ridiculous in your world. I actually feel sorry for you having such a twisted view of reality that you are unable to condemn their murder.

The song sums you up perfectly, you are a zombie.

The incredible irony of those who describe people who sing the song as partitionists are the same people who require higher and higher peace walls to divide themselves from people they share the island with when the actual partition disappeared long ago is not lost on me.

Manic 2000 anyone?...

Great, hopefully you are actually proposing to do that by voting in a referendum rather than blowing 3 yr olds up.

The song Zombie is associated with Munster rugby and was written by a girl from Ballybricken in limerick the home of Munster rugby, have heard it played at a Munster game at the start of second half to rise the crowd as part of enjoyment of the game, a lot of sports teams have a song associated to the team. All the shite here about war, 32 counties, the ra, etc just shows how far down the road a referendum about the north and the majority in the south don’t want it simple facts. If SF get into government this will be the stumbling block to them being taken seriously by the people. The troubles are in the past and that’s where it should stay and move on with life like most on this island.

A "Peach March". ? 🤓

Maybe we could have it as the Boards anthem?

It's obvious that the facts presented to you have made you uncomfortable. It goes against what you've been told and have been spouting for years. That's why you've decided to try to spin your way out with an idiotic question. Let's make this easy, you answer my question and I'll answer yours. Can't get fairer than that.

Are you disputing the CAIN website's findings? They profile everyone killed during the war and the British side targeted civilians for the majority of their attacks while the PIRA targeted active combatants.

It's just a bit weird hearing a song like that belted out by thousands of sports supporters, knowing what it was written about. I couldn't imagine Sunday Bloody Sunday being played at a sports event.

Going to be hilarious to witness the meltdown from upper middle class Ireland when SF are democratically voted in as our government next time out.

I just dont get all this!!!

I mean, "its just a **** song!"

Irish Rugby fans singing Zombie doesnt mean they are anti whatever the **** or pro whatever the **** they are meant to be, its just a song that sounds pretty awesome when 30k/40k thousand people are belting it out.

And the same with Celtic Symphony being belted out, "its just a **** song!" people singing it arent all rabid dissident republicans hell bent on cheerleading the IRA, its just a **** song!

People really do lead sad lives when this kind of stuff gets their back up.

I don't think there's any political message.

'Dreams' by the Cranberries became a big part of the Limerick hurling success and I think there's an element of imitation.

Problem is, I just can't see 'Zombie' as a sporting anthem.

It might sound good belted out by a 30/40k but is it not a bit morose and political for the occasion?

At least 'Fields of Athenry' has a bit of romanticism.

I’m not uncomfortable about anything.

Justifying the murder of innocent children would make me uncomfortable.

In your head, Zombie.

This is mad, this song is used due to its connection with Limerick! They played it in the All Ireland Final in 2018 and then it got such a reaction from the crowd they played it when we won all the other all Irelands.

They played it when Munster Played and Lost to Tolouse in the Aviva and there was a massive reaction from the Crowd. It has been played at nearly every game in Thomond since. It has penetrated Irish Rugby that way! There is nothing in this other than its a belter of a song that when the whole crowd in a stadium is singing it, it makes the hairs on the back of your neck stand up. Munster Rugby have been trying to get the Fields of Athenry changed as the "Munster Anthem" for a long time with Stand up and fight etc.

People these days look to be offended by everything.

I think the big mistake that an awful lot of people are making in the debate about these songs is the apparent assumption that the vast majority of people singing them give a flying f**k about their meaning and deeper subtext. They're singing the songs because they are good songs, or catchy, or rousing for a crowd. A lot of the youngsters who belted out Celtic Symphony will belt out Zombie in the same way.

If anything, we should rejoice in the fact that times have moved on to such an extent that the meaning of these songs is increasingly lost on people. When people sing La Marseillaise they aren't genuinely fearing the slitting of throats, and they aren't consciously dismissing the lived experience of the people who were brutally murdered or effectively summarily executed during the French Revolution. Bella Ciao is a catchy song that people enjoy because it's catchy and not as a call to socialist uprising against fascism. They are songs, nothing more.

Go have a coffee, take a walk in the nice brisk morning, breathe. People need to just move on from getting so worked up about this stuff.

The Rugby West Brit crowd seem to forget that what happened during the troubles was part of a war. As disgusting as the crimes were they were in retaliation for the state sponsored loyalist murdering and control of the 6 counties.

I thought they played Dreams when Limerick won the All Ireland? I'm not offended by Zombie being sung at sporting occasions I just think it's a bit weird as it is obviously a very dark song. At least it's a change from Elevation by U2 I suppose.

Thats just fvcking pathetic, the song is by a band from limerick and started being sung there at Munster rugby games solely for that reason (limericks full of west brits im told....), it progressed to being an anthem for the Irish team cus it sounds awesome when so many sing it. You and many others are making it something it isn't for some sad reason, my guess is you just cant stand the we have a team who are at the moment quite successful in a sport you seem to have such a problem with.

Nah the chorus "in your head" resonates especially after the SA shenanigans prior to the match.

Lets be honest the people who have a problem here werent gonna be watching the rugby to begin with, or at least until it looked like we might get something out of it and if we did they'd be jumping straight on that bandwagon and if we didnt they''d be the first ones to complain about how boring rugby is and the team always lose etc. Basically this is a lot of noise by people who just dont like rugby anyway.

and weird is great

Great song, and great message that the atrocities the IRA committed were "not in our name". Do not Sinn Fein only got 1 or 2% of the vote south of the border during the troubles and the IRA murdered some of our Gardai and army too. Over 99% ot he 16,200 bombs / explosions during the troubles were caused / planted by republicans.

Lets hope we hear Zombie a lot more. In your head.