School resignations and recruitment problems, 2023-2024

My gut feeling is that it would be hard to win that case, if the school is providing the hours to the child by allocating on the timetable, but can't get a teacher to fill the position, there isn't a whole lot they can do. The same could be argued for any mainstream position. That's not to be blasé about special needs, but there are shortages and no court case in the country is going to fix it if no one is willing to take the job because they can't afford to live in Dublin.

Yup permanent positions available and are going unfilled (look at education posts for Dublin). Subs brought in to cover the cracks and SEN teachers taken from small groups to cover large classes.

Career breaks are NOT the problem... as I said teachers who weren't even granted the career breaks up and left anyway.

The reason why teachers don't care if their career breaks are denied is quite simple. . . they know there's a job to walk into if they return due to the shortages.

Denying career breaks is just mean-spirited, counter-productive and nasty from idiotic principals which gains them nothing as no one is going to be forced to stay in a position against their will.

There's a stark enough divide between the Dublin area and the country. More teachers are from the country and girls schools in the country would be hiring former pupils a fair amount of the time or would have the option too. There might have been 10ish teachers eventually out of my year group, and that would replicated most years.

Schools in Dublin are more stratified too, the difference in an all girls convent and Deis ETB is not as stark in the country compared to the city. The job is very different in both, your completely right there, so a lot comes down to what you want from the job. I love the challenges of DEIS, there is enormous satisfaction in the job and huge variation. But its not for everyone.

I find in the city it comes down to the perception of staff a lot of the time, if a school has a reputation for being welcoming and staff being sound and it generally being well run, it will be fine. I know of a couple of localish, private schools struggling far more than us in our DEIS setting for staff because of their management. No harm in bad management being highlighted either, it is in most industries.

To be fair, I have worked with all sectors of schoolgoers and the middle/upper middle class girls are the one demographic that I find impossible to manage. They would make Machiavelli look like a dunce in the way they can manipulate situations to their own advantage. Far more covert than a working class boy leaving a litany behind and storming out, but waaaaaay more dangerous.

i suppose the only saving grace is their would seem to be a lot less of trouble rearing its head for the individual teacher day to day, but yeah when you get one going that direction its a minefield, rural all girls schools maybe less of that going on.