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The emergence of "Zombie" by The Cranberries as an Irish sporting anthem

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  • Registered Users Posts: 24,058 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec




  • Registered Users Posts: 4,650 ✭✭✭standardg60


    Nope we in the south will have our own vote whether to accept the zombies or not.



  • Registered Users Posts: 503 ✭✭✭dickdasr1234


    Maybe we could have it as the Boards anthem?



  • Registered Users Posts: 625 ✭✭✭Cal4567


    What a dilemma for the Sinners.

    Nothing reeks more of garrison games than a bit of rugger, but nevermind that, what an opportunity for Mary Lou to link in with her soon to be besties. Middle Ireland.

    Maybe she's spending her recuperation frantically getting to grips with the rules of the game, and we await an announcement from the Taioseach in waiting. Zombie or no Zombie, Mary Lou?



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,873 ✭✭✭Musicrules


    It's obvious that the facts presented to you have made you uncomfortable. It goes against what you've been told and have been spouting for years. That's why you've decided to try to spin your way out with an idiotic question. Let's make this easy, you answer my question and I'll answer yours. Can't get fairer than that.

    Are you disputing the CAIN website's findings? They profile everyone killed during the war and the British side targeted civilians for the majority of their attacks while the PIRA targeted active combatants.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,873 ✭✭✭Musicrules


    I've made no comment on the song, I've just pointed out some facts about the war showing that the reality doesn't match some of the comments on this thread. You're free to dispute the CAIN findings if you want, the same as everyone one else. But as it stands, the PIRA did some awful things, this doesn't change the fact that their war was just, they were fighting back against oppression and against combined forces of loyalists and British armed forces who predominantly targeted innocent civilians. The PIRA were the good guys in the war.



  • Registered Users Posts: 506 ✭✭✭JKerova1


    It's just a bit weird hearing a song like that belted out by thousands of sports supporters, knowing what it was written about. I couldn't imagine Sunday Bloody Sunday being played at a sports event.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,873 ✭✭✭Musicrules


    When have we voted on Irish reunification? Never. The votes we've had from the treaty to the good Friday agreement have come under the threat of extreme violence.



  • Registered Users Posts: 698 ✭✭✭TedBundysDriver


    Going to be hilarious to witness the meltdown from upper middle class Ireland when SF are democratically voted in as our government next time out.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,066 ✭✭✭HerrKuehn


    It will be even funnier when the SF supporters realise the free houses that were promised aren't forthcoming. I will look forward to the excuses. I wonder what the plan 'B' is?



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,422 ✭✭✭Snooker Loopy


    Plan B is to furiously blame everybody else, like Trump and the Brexit loonies.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 20,338 Mod ✭✭✭✭Weepsie


    It was bekted out at the mma too in dublin



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,342 ✭✭✭prunudo




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,892 ✭✭✭the kelt


    I just dont get all this!!!

    I mean, "its just a **** song!"

    Irish Rugby fans singing Zombie doesnt mean they are anti whatever the **** or pro whatever the **** they are meant to be, its just a song that sounds pretty awesome when 30k/40k thousand people are belting it out.

    And the same with Celtic Symphony being belted out, "its just a **** song!" people singing it arent all rabid dissident republicans hell bent on cheerleading the IRA, its just a **** song!

    People really do lead sad lives when this kind of stuff gets their back up.



  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 10,541 Mod ✭✭✭✭artanevilla


    Get out of my head Damien Duff!



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,508 ✭✭✭MegamanBoo


    I don't think there's any political message.

    'Dreams' by the Cranberries became a big part of the Limerick hurling success and I think there's an element of imitation.

    Problem is, I just can't see 'Zombie' as a sporting anthem.

    It might sound good belted out by a 30/40k but is it not a bit morose and political for the occasion?

    At least 'Fields of Athenry' has a bit of romanticism.



  • Registered Users Posts: 870 ✭✭✭DarkJager21


    It's the brave new world apparently, some people will hunt out the most trivial **** to be offended by and then soapbox to everyone else about how right they are.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,004 ✭✭✭downthemiddle


    I’m not uncomfortable about anything.

    Justifying the murder of innocent children would make me uncomfortable.

    In your head, Zombie.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,980 ✭✭✭Lucy8080


    The " In your head, in your head" chorus kinda plays with the build up to the game. The S.A. coach was perceived in some quarters to be playing "mind games " by naming his team early in the week and announcing a 7/1 forward split on the bench. It could come across as cocky/over-confident, or trying to get inside the Irish teams "Head".

    From a sporting perspective , singing "in Your Head" after the win on Saturday would have resonated with fans.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,350 ✭✭✭Tefral


    This is mad, this song is used due to its connection with Limerick! They played it in the All Ireland Final in 2018 and then it got such a reaction from the crowd they played it when we won all the other all Irelands.

    They played it when Munster Played and Lost to Tolouse in the Aviva and there was a massive reaction from the Crowd. It has been played at nearly every game in Thomond since. It has penetrated Irish Rugby that way! There is nothing in this other than its a belter of a song that when the whole crowd in a stadium is singing it, it makes the hairs on the back of your neck stand up. Munster Rugby have been trying to get the Fields of Athenry changed as the "Munster Anthem" for a long time with Stand up and fight etc.

    People these days look to be offended by everything.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 23,539 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    I think its a feeble attempt to "get back" at anyone who wasn't deeply by offended the Wolfe Tones recent resurgence.

    Comical.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,764 ✭✭✭ArthurDayne


    I think the big mistake that an awful lot of people are making in the debate about these songs is the apparent assumption that the vast majority of people singing them give a flying f**k about their meaning and deeper subtext. They're singing the songs because they are good songs, or catchy, or rousing for a crowd. A lot of the youngsters who belted out Celtic Symphony will belt out Zombie in the same way.

    If anything, we should rejoice in the fact that times have moved on to such an extent that the meaning of these songs is increasingly lost on people. When people sing La Marseillaise they aren't genuinely fearing the slitting of throats, and they aren't consciously dismissing the lived experience of the people who were brutally murdered or effectively summarily executed during the French Revolution. Bella Ciao is a catchy song that people enjoy because it's catchy and not as a call to socialist uprising against fascism. They are songs, nothing more.

    Go have a coffee, take a walk in the nice brisk morning, breathe. People need to just move on from getting so worked up about this stuff.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,350 ✭✭✭Tefral


    No, read my post again, thats litterally all thats in it, nothing else.

    People need to stop looking for deeper meanings in things to be offended by and just accept that sometimes things are just face value.



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,279 ✭✭✭Gusser09


    The Rugby West Brit crowd seem to forget that what happened during the troubles was part of a war. As disgusting as the crimes were they were in retaliation for the state sponsored loyalist murdering and control of the 6 counties.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,508 ✭✭✭MegamanBoo


    Is that not the Cranberries songs 'Dreams' though?

    I can see that as a sporting anthem. 'Zombie' not really.



  • Registered Users Posts: 506 ✭✭✭JKerova1


    I thought they played Dreams when Limerick won the All Ireland? I'm not offended by Zombie being sung at sporting occasions I just think it's a bit weird as it is obviously a very dark song. At least it's a change from Elevation by U2 I suppose.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,989 ✭✭✭SuperBowserWorld


    Yup, Zombie is a weird song to play at a match.



  • Registered Users Posts: 17,972 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    Thats just fvcking pathetic, the song is by a band from limerick and started being sung there at Munster rugby games solely for that reason (limericks full of west brits im told....), it progressed to being an anthem for the Irish team cus it sounds awesome when so many sing it. You and many others are making it something it isn't for some sad reason, my guess is you just cant stand the we have a team who are at the moment quite successful in a sport you seem to have such a problem with.

    Nah the chorus "in your head" resonates especially after the SA shenanigans prior to the match.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,508 ✭✭✭MegamanBoo


    Sounds a bit of a tone-deaf stretch.

    A bit like singing 'Relax' by Frankie Goes To Hollywood to the team, so they're not overly tense before the game.

    Maybe I just don't get the rugby 'mindset'.

    Good luck to them.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 17,972 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    Lets be honest the people who have a problem here werent gonna be watching the rugby to begin with, or at least until it looked like we might get something out of it and if we did they'd be jumping straight on that bandwagon and if we didnt they''d be the first ones to complain about how boring rugby is and the team always lose etc. Basically this is a lot of noise by people who just dont like rugby anyway.



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