Was it a man or a woman that murdered Raonaid Murray?

It wasn't a thread, it was a one-man stream of consciousness blog.

No motive, no witnesses and not really DNA. Probably wont be solved.

Remember in the Annie Mccarrick case how a sighting at Johnny Fox's put the garda off. I wonder in this case was that alleged sighting of her arguing with a man on corrig/gleangeary rd really her? People might not remember but Dun Laoghaire on a weekend night in the 90's was buzzing and many younger people would be walking home from the pubs at this hour up the gleangeary rd.

Who ever stabbed her did not leave her for dead. She was still stumbling after the attack. Which would suggest it was a stranger rather than someone she knew. If you stabbed someone you knew and then ran away knowing you had not killed them you would know you will do time for it. Also a friend of hers told me that she walked with Raonoid a few weeks before she was killed to dun laoghaire and they walked the metals and not gleangeary rd. She believes this was her usual way of walking to and from DL. Also the fact that if she did walk the gleangeary rd she would have just turned on to silchester park and not go on to silchester rd and then through the cut on to silchester park as this would be longer and would also bring her up that dark lane. However if she walked the metals she would have had to gone up this lane.

The metals use to have kids hanging around it at night too back then and was known to be dangerous. Also back in the 90's alot of kids i remember carried knifes. Well in comparison to these days i believe. I wonder did she infact walk back through the metals and get followed by a stranger. They believe who ever stabbed her was not very strong. Her father was the principal of Pres glasstule near by. I wonder did a teenager who hung around the metals and know her from that do it. It does not appear the person struck again and had no or a weak motive to kill her in the first place which i think points to a teenager.

In fairness, he'd a lot of info.

Did she actually manage to crawl or stumble to her own door? I thought she collapsed and died at or near the spot where the attack took place and was discovered shortly afterwards by a relative or friend.

I don't know the statistics regarding perpetrators of knife crime but I would guess the number of females who carry knives for murderous intentions is very small indeed. I think a man killed Raoinaid.

25 years and still lots of stupid speculation around. And people here thank you!

Of course there was a motive. We just don't know it thanks to the keystone cop investigation. She wasn't stabbed 30 times by accident. Importantly, she was not sexually assaulted so that motive can be discounted.

And of course there were witnesses - they heard her cries in the laneway.

Annie McCarrick's tragedy is total red herring. Raonaid was never missing, there were no false sightings, their paths never crossed.

How many times would she have to be stabbed before you could believe she was left for dead? 50? 100? This was murder most foul.

There is no basis for your speculation that she was stabbed in the metals and staggered homeward. That simply ignores the neighbours who heard her cries to "get away". Or do you think her killer stabbed her in the Metals but followed her as she staggered homeward (Just in case she need help dying, like.) And only as Raonaid neared her home she at last decided to cry out "stay away" or "f*ck off"???

Your grand finale is a clincher, Sherlock. You think she was stabbed to death because her Dad was the local school principal? In Glenageary.

I rest my case, m'lud.

You have completely re-written your original post.

“No motive” has become “no known motive”

“No witness” has become “no one knows if the killer is male or female”.

Your ramblings about the Metals are hard to decipher but you suggested her killer was one of the kids who were hanging around the Metals with knives and who just decided to follow her and stab her to death. Like no one before or since anywhere in Ireland.

Killers don’t have to wait around for an autopsy. If you kill someone by stabbing them 30 times, that’s murder. It’s no defence to say “She was still staggering around when I ran away”.

I merely repeated your suggestion that her murder could be connected to her Dad being principal of the local school. That’s ridiculous in Glenageary and it would be ridiculous anywhere in Ireland. Though not so much in a list of hell-hole countries I could mention if you want to waste time.

Her family say she took her normal route home through that laneway. Why waste our time speculating about alternative routes?

Anyway, none of this adds an iota to our knowledge of this case. It only creates red herrings (Annie McCarrick?) and confusion.

Gemma says a documentary being made by someone she knows. Anyone knows about that?