Immigration to Ireland - policies, challenges, and solutions *Read OP before posting*

Didn’t we have a 1 billion quid underspend by the housing department in terms of building new social housing etc?

They can’t spend that money building houses for Ireland but seem happy enough to green light an extra billion euro in spending to accommodate new arrivals…this could go on forever - the very simply economic concept of Opportunity cost appears to be lost on our government

Do we have the people to actually build the houses if we had the will?

The kids of Ireland are moving to Australia and Canada for a life.

If you were a skilled tradesman then why would you stay here living at home.

Imagine building houses for people who contribute nothing while you are at home because you can't source accommodation.

She's just a clueless (or worse, dishonest) populist politician. Uncontrolled immigration is not an existential threat, but it is a symptom of West's decline. West used to be the one doing the invading, not the one being invaded.

Well If you what to compare yourself to a gormless UK politician, that's up to you.

But you're slapping yourself on the back for coming up with the same rhetorical bullshit - have the number of small boat crossings reduced since she first referred to it as an "invasion"?

A waste of time as usual.

Another warped headline from the IT. The Irish public already told Minister Roderick to stop this Govmt's undemocratic immigration policy. So whom exactly is being "warned" that there's no beds?! 

https://www.irishtimes.com/politics/2023/09/26/ogorman-warns-on-bed-availability-as-thousands-of-extra-refugees-expected-to-arrive/

No, that's not what I've said. My point was that the West, meaning both countries which conquered and colonized, and countries who haven't, is losing its strength and its capability and its will to defend itself and this is what lead to losing control over its borders. Uncontrolled migration is not a cause, its a symptom.

Meloni and braverman are using the same language.

It's not an invasion in a military sense. The British and Italians have no problem dropping bombs and bullets on Russian invasion forces.

They are simply people looking for a better life. They wouldn't endanger the migrants lives.

Will they change our societies though? You bet. There's already a defacto anti blasphemy law on mainland Europe were you will face deadly consequences if you don't respect their prophet.

Imagine my surprise that this continues to be an issue for O'Gorman. He found accommodation for the lot in the summer and now he is soon going to be scrambling for the next lot. The reality is the more you welcome the more will come.

Irish people unfortunately are giving tactic approval to this insanity by voting mainstream parties such as sinn Fein, FF, Greens, FG and labour.

I get why people don't want to vote IFP. What meager assets I have are in Euro. However this is going past the point of tolerance. The bigger countries could even call time on this project because of the absolute uncontrolled immigration.

No evidence that unskilled working class Irish people are being kept out of jobs by migrant workers. The country is literally at full employment - anyone who wants a job can get one. Frequently, companies hire migrants as locals simply don't want to do the work and are not prepared to fill the vacancies.

These arguments were used by the Brexiteers to justify Brexit. They claimed EU citizens were responsible for driving down wages for the poor, keeping working class people out of jobs etc. Now that they have succeeded in keeping new EU workers out of the country, there doesn't seem to have been even the slightest improvement for the working class (beware of shysters making false promises).

"Locals simply don't want to do the work"

No - "Locals" don't want to do the work for minimum wage and awful conditions.

Do you have evidence of this at all?

Immigrants / refugees are not responsible for either the minimum wage or awful working conditions : not sure why this would be discussed in an immigration thread. These are solely matters for the Irish government and employers.

The government could set the minimum wage at €20 an hour if they wanted : employers could pay them more. Saying that immigrants are the cause of low wages or poor working conditions is misleading. According to this narrative, low paid immigrants are running the country, not the government or employers.