Is there any reason left not to go smart meter?

LOL and LOL!

Yeah surely there must be 100k, maybe 200k D/N meters at least in the country, probably more. And they are all going to be replaced in the next 4 weeks? Sounds as plausible as Santa Claus dropping down the chimney of every home in the world on Christmas eve 😂

I read somewhere the figure was around 275k d/n meters.

Thats true too. Is it even 10%? Might not be.

They will change them all in time but in terms of deemed FiT they are prioritising the people with d/n and registered Solar.

52k in 4 weeks? I honestly can't see it happen.

Nope, you can't be forced. But if you refuse, you will no longer get deemed export and you will never get export on a smart meter either in future. Also the day / night plans will be coming to an end soon, I bet no provider will offer them any more next year.

We really got to move on to the smart meters, they are in the country's interest. The will nudge people to either consume less during the most expensive / polluting times and if you don't oblige, you will pay the high price for this dirty electricity. The polluter pays, as they should.

I'd be surprised if that's the figure. I think we have about 60k domestic Solar PV installs to date. Would 52k of them be d/n meters? Maybe, seems high though.

I'd expect you won't get FIT until you get the smart meter at the point when D/N deemed export ends.

CRU confirmed similar to me on 24hr meters. No deemed export is payable as there are smart meters people can chose instead. IE, they see it as there being an alternative meter type available. I know that's no specific to D/N with it's the same CRU rationale I expect. CRU determine what meter type gets deemed export and when that ends, not the ESB or energy providers.

I'm actually not quite sure on that bit, maybe someone can verify

You would need to do the sums yourself, how much can you use directly in the 2-5AM night rate slot, like you can run all your applicances on night rate, heat your water, charge your car, etc.

Then you don't need to use all of the rest of your units from battery, this 5c rate is so cheap (and you get a €100 welcome bonus), that you can use quite a significant part of your units at the peak rate of about 47c and you would still be better off than on a 24h rate of say 30c

We've done some ROI calculations on the last few pages of this thread, have a look and adjust for your own situation. Depends a lot on your needs, what sort of system you would get, would you build your battery yourself, etc.

If you buy a battery, you still need an inverter. Why not also buy panels? They are the cheapest investment in solar compared to the other two... and they will definitely pay for themselves.

A battery only system is a real risk... it might take 4 x 5kwh off the shelf batteries... and each could cost well north of 2k euro each. You would be only betting on high electricity prices over the life span of the battery and a large difference in a special cheap night rate continuing.

No one hear can predict the future prices of these.... panels on the other hand will always harvest sunshine. For the next few million years hopefully.

Before building a battery only system i would hugley recommend doing ALL other home upgrades like insulation, pumping walls, replace windows etc - solar is last. battery is last behind load shifting and automation.

It's like they can't see outside their bubble. Its like me thinking its insane to trade in a car rather than sell privately.

I wouldn't trade in but I can't see whyy others would for piece of mind and convince