The emergence of "Zombie" by The Cranberries as an Irish sporting anthem

that was a conspiricy theory put forward by those bitter at the GFA on the british side.

well no sf weren't the IRA and adams wasn't in the PIRA as he has said himself, he is innocent until proven guilty in a court therefore his claim is accurate until proven otherwise in said court.

Now the ultimate irony. A SF supporter on the same side as the British government because they don't like a song that draws attention to the futility and wanton cruelty of bombs.

In your head, in your head.

posters absolutely have posted perfectly coherent justifications for the PIRA self-defense, you not agreeing with those is not the same as there being no justification.

Where do the begin and end ? if a student asked I would prob point to post 1925 maybe when FF was formed and rump of anti treaty became SF. Should the IRA have stopped their actions after housing and jobs for catholics wasnt as big an issue? where and when should they have stopped? i personally believe they may have been right to defend their areas from persecution of loyalist mobs, but i never got the whole British army being a foreign invader, they literally were the proper army of that jurisdiction of the UK. end of. IRA had zero right to take on and go to war against the army of their country. it was basically a civil war type revolution not a freedom fighting mission. when was this mythical Ireland only ever ruled by irish people?

I did only post on page five?

Why would I need an excuse for not watching a mm interview? Guess what, but as a SF voter I don't put much stock in what he has to say. I responded to what you picked from the interview.

And why wouldn't I ask somebody to read the thread if they've missed or ignored something in it? Sure I missed the first page.

You're starting to sound more than a little conspiratorial trying to trying to paint me as some sort of SF agent.

I think some of you struggle with the idea of reluctant SF voters. People that can't be painted as extremists or part of the populist mob are a challenge I guess?

Its unusual that a country's own army would kill its own citizens. Just a reminder of how the British Army weren't too happy with the Civil Rights movement.

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=john+hume+british+army+officer&bshm=rimc/1#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:8d66a6e1,vid:DwBOUkBAO5s,st:0

Do you know what other songs were blacklisted by the UK government at the same time? I think there was about a hundred including Coming In The Air Tonight by Phil Collins and Rocketman by Elton John. I think the B-52s were completely blacklisted as well.

no it wasnt

I could be wrong but this is the list I see. About 15 or so songs. I think a lot more were banned in the US.

You'll see there's plenty of songs there that wouldn't be considered remotely anti-war. Probably something in the video or something in the title. It all depends on the context and I'd say an awful lot of songs/sayings/poems etc can be offensive if intended that way. As a politician mm would be well aware of this, but I guess he thinks it's advantageous to let this roll on.

The 'national leader' thing to do would have been to say, let's not politicize this, let's leave these divisions in the past, people were just singing the song innocently and call for cool heads.

I've watched it since, never refused to watch it, only it wouldn't be top of my list as a sf voter.

It's clear to me he's only trying to politicize further. He'd be well aware that things can be offensive depending on the context.

Fans singing 'Zombie' as a sing a long, personally I don't find offensive. If I were singing the same song to US soldiers in Shannon what would mm think of that? He's well aware of this stuff.

Who/what do you consider to be shinner bots? I just want to see who you are trying to insult with that post.

Hmmmm, not sure if that's correct but you certainly missed a few:

• Wants some hope of owning a house.
• Doesn't want to die old and alone on a hospital trolley.
• Wants to be able to send kids to college.
• Expects some sense of fair return for their taxes.
• Concerned we're moving to a polarized country of have's and have-not's
• Won't downplay homelessness and fudge the figures.
• Accepts sf's commitment to the peace process and doesn't want history lessons from civil war parties.

I don't think sf are going to 'wave a magic wand', but I believe a left wing gov will be a move away from repeatedly turning to the same neoliberal policies and rhetoric which are proven to have failed.