The emergence of "Zombie" by The Cranberries as an Irish sporting anthem

You're all over the place now.

People objected to the song for political reasons, and you supported them for political reasons, while those who were singing the song were never singing it for political reasons. People may now sing the song in defiance of those who objected for political reasons, purely due to them objecting in the first place.

Anyway i'm off to watch some rugby.

If anyone is looking for a great cover of Zombie check out Daria Stavrovich on YouTube from The Voice Russia.

any act implemented to uphold the sectarian state, under that sectarian state, was implemented on the basis of gerrymandering.

You're the only one who's been dragging it out, clearly you've now been told by someone to stop.

It's so obvious.

No, even though I'm not offended by this song, and like it, I can see how somebody genuinely might be.

But so far, I don't think anyone here wants to consider anything like that. In fairness there's an awful lot of pushing agendas, so maybe a lot of understandable wariness too.

Most of the people here are just singing a great song at a match. They're not out to hurt anyone and I can respect that.

In last election I voted for a SF guy who was working hard in the local area, but after the clowns like yourself and other SF supporters complaining about an Irish song being sang at rugby national game for enjoyment by a stadium full of people having a good time, and having sang the same song in the aviva at a Munster game with the kids at half time to get the fans behind the team. There is one thing for certain no SF vote in this household next election and a lot more Irish fans will do the same, now have to go and get west Brit put on my Munster jersey. Seen this is what shinners think all rugby supporters are.

It is certainly not an issue for an inclusive 32 county team. It is only an issue for those who may be opposed to such inclusivity.

The more i look at it, the more i think this whole targeting of the song was a planned and coordinated attack by certain elements which has spectacularly backfired.

If that's what you want to call it and it stops your phoney outrage great 👍

“The Miami Showband massacre was an attempt by the British Army and the UVF to kill all the members of the popular Irish showband by placing a bomb inside their van.”

There’s one example. Colour you shocked.

I have to 100% agree with the first sentence here. They IRA did not act in the name of all Irish people on the island of Ireland.

Most Irish people in the south stuck their fingers in their ears and whistled Dixie whilst Irish people in the North were murdered, burnt out of their homes and treated like blacks under the Jim Crow laws. They just didn’t care about them. Easier to turn a blind eye than risk having to do anything to help.

Thomas James Clarke

Born on the Isle of Wight in 1857, Clarke’s father was a soldier in the British army. During his time in America as a young man, he joined Clann na nGael, later enduring fifteen years of penal servitude for his role in a bombing campaign in London, 1883-1898.

The first bombs of the Dynamite War were planted in London in October, causing explosions on the London Underground near Praed Street (now Paddington) and Charing Cross stations. Over 70 people were injured. In February 1884 a small explosion in the cloakroom of Victoria Station in London injured seven people and several unexploded devices were discovered at Charing Cross, Paddington and Ludgate Hill stations. In May bombs were thrown into two London clubs, there was a failed attack on Scotland Yard and dynamite was discovered at the base of Nelson’s Column in Trafalgar Square. In December 1884 Lomasney was killed when the bomb he planted at London Bridge exploded prematurely. With the exception of the attack on Scotland Yard (which housed the Special Irish Branch, established in 1884 to investigate the dynamiters), it could hardly be claimed that the targets were either military or political. The dynamite war targets included train and Underground stations – public spaces where the death or injury of civilians was extremely likely – and would today be described as terrorist in nature. It is difficult to argue that, assuming the bombs exploded, the dynamite war would not result in significant civilian casualties.

How many people do you think are aware of the interviews Dolores gave about the song after it's release, explaining that while it was written in reaction to Warrington, for her it represented a wider anti-violence message, while understanding and accepting that nuanced distinction?

And that's only trying to understand the intentions behind the song, it's a powerful, angry, confrontational song (and great for it) of course it could be used to portray all sorts of messages.

40,000 people were singing it for a singalong at a rugby match ffs.

Maybe you genuinely do think everyone must have attached the same singular meaning and understanding to it as yourself, if you're not just trying to be outraged that is.

Meanwhile, most people just don't want these politics coming into sports.

It lessens it for everyone if they are, can you not see that?

Thats still 1.9m. Again, most. Maths not a strong point? And pensioners just lose interest in sports?? Haha