Cyclists' responsibility for their own safety *warning* infractions given liberally for trolling etc

The sweeping generalisation was demolished as it was based on a nonsensical interpretation of statistics.

Sure, here's one such driver.

I'm sure you're delighted to have such a good cudgel to use against the other 2.8m+ drivers in Ireland who weren't involved. You have no idea what caused the accident, but I doubt it matters. Now, can you be more specific about which of Ireland's 2.m+ drivers you're accusing of "killing 3 or 4 people every week?"

Maybe I can help you out a little, as I said before, when last the RSA published statistics, just over 2.8 million people had some kind of Irish license or permit with the vast majority, a little over 2.5 million, being or including Full Category B (car). Some Irish drivers have emigrated, and some people drive on Irish roads with foreign licenses.

Most of these drivers never have been or never will be even involved in a fatal incident, let alone the cause of one. Of those who have or ever will be involved in a fatal incident, some will have been the cause of said incidents, and some will not have been culpable, likely being in the wrong place at the wrong time. The best available information we have indicates that this group includes 70% of the drivers involved in vehicle-pedestrian collisions.

So perhaps you can clarify which of Ireland's drivers you are accusing here?

1. Car colour does influence collision rates. Why do you think marked Garda cars are yellow, and most unmarked are neutral, common colours? Yes the yellow ones still get hit by inattentive motorists, but that's a different problem.

2. Did I say it was acceptable? In fact I've spent my entire career making technology which reduces and mitigates vehicle blindspots.

Care to address the study I linked rather than be a smart arse?

Because those drivers wouldn't notice if a nuclear bombs went off in front of them. ie: I'm well aware, and agree that if you don't look, you won't see.

But clearly, according to the study I posted, hi-vis does make a difference. It makes a difference to those who are looking.

Those who are looking aren't the problem though. It's those who aren't.

You conveniently omitted any mention of responsibility of the vehicle owner to eliminate blind spots.

Plus every car marketed in the EU after 2011 has Daytime Running Lights. DRLs fill the same role as hi-vis might for a cyclist.

With all the high profile accidents with cars this year, it's likely the attention of road of road safely will be on cars.

"However, it is alarming to see a reversal in this trend, and we are working hard to deliver and reprioritise certain actions within the Government’s ten-year (2021-2030) Road Safety Strategy."

Theres a certain Irony in some people not being able to see the limitations of hi Viz.

They are trying to hold back the tide. Theres now more segrated cycle lanes than ever, dedicated road space taken away from cars that will do far more than any vest.

You're not going to get someone who refuses to use a light at night to wear a vest. It's up to the cops to enforce the law. Which they didn't do in this case. This is a story that hits every branch on the road safety tree.

That's not the claim. Making it black and white to try to undermine someones point isn't reasonable.

It's about introducing behaviours, road design, equipment which first reduce the risk of a collision, and secondly reduce the risk of injury should one occur.

Provided that the idiot behind the wheel knows how to use them.

Once the dark evenings come in, I'll see one or two drivers each day with no back lights because they don't know how their DRLs work. When I tell them about, they generally react with great confusion. I remember the Lexus driver telling me that he'd been driving like this for eight months, all through winter, since he bought the car. I've seen in with Garda cars too, squad car and unmarked.

This is why all cars should have mandatory hiviz panels on all sides. When are drivers going to take responsibility for being seen?

The weaknesses of the Danish study, particularly the reliance on self reporting, were well teased out in the hiviz megathread.

It's hard to take hiviz shaming of cyclists seriously from those who are driving black and navy cars around.