The emergence of "Zombie" by The Cranberries as an Irish sporting anthem

SF supporters are free to criticise the song all they want. What I'm asking is why are they criticising it? What is their issue with this particular you song? You keep dodging that question.

Some posters have said they think its crap/bad/awful song. Someone mentioned they can't stand Dolores' voice. That's all fine. Its music and everyone has different tastes. But was is SF issue with the song?

I think Tagdh Hickey, a failed comedian an actor nobody has heard of, was talking about Cork, where he is from and knows best. He could have been talking about the massacre of innocent Protestants in Cork about a century ago, the forced emigration of others etc. What would the self confessed alcoholic Hickey know anyway? He was not even born or alive during the worst of the troubles. The only true thing he said was " If I could change something from my past, I’d take away all the hurt and terror I caused my loved ones when I was drinking and drugging."

I think that poor man has his own problems. Wouldn't be mocking him here by posting that nonsense.

You're right about one thing, I've never heard of Tadhg Hickey, but anyone who uses someone's past addiction as a stick to beat them with is pretty sick and twisted, particularly if the person is in recovery and doing their best to overcome their addiction. Wind your neck in and cop on.

I am not using it as a stick to beat him with, I just do not see why his opinion is held by some above others people opinions. He is entitled to his opinion, but what does he really know about N.I., and from where, seeing as he was not a adult when the troubles were happening? Someone said he is a comedian, fair enough, maybe he is just trying to make a name for himself to get on the telly or something? He is not as famous as the "Young Offenders" ( comedians from Cork) , maybe he wants to be? Or maybe he is one of them already?

Was he ever near any of the 16,000 bombs the terrorists exploded? Ever know anyone killed or injured? Ever inconvenienced by false bomb threats? Ever stopped getting off a plane abroad and questioned, as the name of the good people of Ireland was dragged through the mud by those who planted bombs? From what he said, it just sounded to me like he got his information from an Phoblocht? Most people in N.I. during the troubles, and most people south of the border during the troubles, certainly would not have agreed with him.

I wish him well in his career and battle to beat his addictions anyway, but I certainly do not find him funny (if indeed he is a comedian), nor do I find his utterances very insightful or thoughtful.

You write "Republicans didn't really care what religion you were"....tell that to the relative of those left behind from the many incidents where they targeted Protestant civilians. Relatively early in the conflict for example, in 1975, IRA members machine-gunned an Orange Hall in Newtownhamilton, killing five Protestants. In 1976, in Armagh, IRA members operating under the proxy name South Armagh Republican Action Force shot dead ten Protestant building workers in the Kingsmill massacre, having left the Catholic worker go. Also remember the LeMons restaurant bombing in the seventies,, the massacre of innocent church goers at Darkly, the Enniskillen Remberance day bombing etc. And the ethnic cleansing ( as perceived by many) along the border, which effectively resulted in the border being pushed back.

None of the bombing or attacks were in our name. All terrorism is wrong.

He seems a well balanced, likeable man, not big headed or arrogant like some sports stars are. Great to see him doing well at the weekend. Did you know that along with Jack Niklaus and Tiger Woods, he is one of only three players to have won four majors by the age of 25.

That isn't where he has positioned himself in fairness.

He has identified with Northern Ireland, seeing it as distinct from the South and from rUK, but both British and Irish.

If you want a united Ireland, he is the type of person in the middle that will have to be persuaded. The amount of abuse he gets from green-flagged good republican Twitter users would hardly endear him to the concept.

I think a small few on Twitter were calling them west brits.

That's a million miles from the Tanaiste saying 'anyone who criticizes this supports bombing children'

I'm sure there's a lot of people criticizing things I like on Twitter, calling me this, that and the other.

That doesn't make it a national issue where it's all over the papers and the Tanaiste's involved.

Sorry the shinner bot data center was down yesterday and I couldn't reply.

I don't know what you mean, I like the song!

The question was quite simple. You have posted such a huge amount of posts that obviously you have some sort of an issue with the song Zombie.

You were asked by the other person, is it because " you don’t like the good old IRA boys being called out as murderers?

or

you feel that that sports fans are sneering at the good old IRA boys ?

or

because an issue has been made because the SF boys did not like the IRA boys being criticised for killing kids?

which one is it?"

Your comrades in shinner bot HQ do not see to have such an issue with pro violence / pro IRA songs such as Celtic Synphony?

I don't necessarily want a united Ireland. I just want Rory to get off the fence, choose a side, embrace it and cheer the feck up. He won't have to give idiotic excuses for not competing in the Olympics anymore.

He was concerned about the Zika Virus in 2016😀. Yeah right Rory.

The Americans always have a banter thing going on in the Ryder Cup. He should take it as it was intended and stop whinging.

Just quoting this as the point is completely lost on the unthinking shinnerbots on here particularly end of the road who seems totally incapable of anything but a dogmatic and unflinching black and white analysis of the situation. The truth is you could be green on the national question without condoning civilian and child murderers by supporting SDLP. Doesn't compute with them though. These people could kill off moderate nationalism if it ever comes to a vote making them, rather ironically, unwitting partitionists.

He has got off the fence, he has chosen Northern Ireland. Those with a binary identity fixation don't understand it, but I do.

And has represented Ireland with pride in the Olympics.