Random EV thoughts.....

As I said in the above posts VW are not perfect either.

Etron is not perfect either but a definite upgrade in regards to quality materials inside and out.

If it was a €12k car Vs an E-tron then fair point, but a €40k plus car (more in 2020?) shouldn't have any build quality issues regardless of badge

Now it's fair to say there'll always be a few escapes, but the after sales service needs to be there to fix those issues

A 2020 Tesla came from Fremont. They all come from Shanghai now and quality seems to be much higher. But the 2019,2020 versions are 4 times more reliable than an Octavia and 14 times more reliable than a Rav 4 according to ADAC

Exact same experience. Had a pre-facelift Model S for two years with lots of issues, always got a free loaner car of much higher value than my own car, with free tolls and free unlimited fuel (what other car maker does that?), can't fault service but their parts supply chain is bad. I now have a facelift Model S for almost 2 years and the car has no issues, build quality hugely better And both of these were made in the USA, which will guarantee you the opposite of good build quality from any brand 😂 The Tesla cars made in Berlin and China are miles ahead in terms of build quality

It's still open for breakdowns

As I frequent the Superchargers a lot during the week, I periodically run into them while charging. The guys are always super helpful, happy to chat and top up the windscreen washers. Even had a couple of issues diagnosed and appointments made as a result.

But I seriously love the Model S's that are modded to carry their kit. Its amazing how few tools they actually require.

How could anyone go back to a van after having that.

Jay Leno Hauls Tesla Semi with Tesla Semi

Which of those multiple locations can work on Tesla's aluminum body?

Insurers don’t ‘punish’ any specific car - it’s an industry that relies far too much on actuarial data and precedence, in order to adequately insure against similar claims in future.

the reason tesla insurance appears to be getting higher is purely down to the increasing amount of claim data available as they sell more of them - just like any other car.

things like VW’s, GM, Ford, Toyota etc share huge amounts of repairable parts across a wide range of vehicles; there’s decades of insurance data.

it’s not just the Y - another current example is trying to insure a Range Rover in London city due to the level of theft. A lot of insurers have simply stopped.

Absolutely correct - but that all adds to the risk profile. Remember that ‘risk’ in an insurance context doesn’t mean the chances of you having a claim, it’s the ‘risk’ of them having to pay, and how much they have to pay :)

It is hard to be sure if premium for Tesla cars are increasing but even in your example newer, simpler, weaker and cheaper to fix vehicle seems to be more expensive. I see that EVO 5 was costly, but in my experience EV insurance was always keenly priced than ICE. This seems to be true for last 12 months - with only exception being Tesla. I do not see a reason for Tesla to be fundamentally more dangerous, hence I think that limited availability of garages that can do a panel replacement after small incident could be driving premiums up and/or reluctance to insure Tesla.