Chippers

How would I know, any more than you do? I'm not in the business.

I think our argument has probably run its course. You don't appear to have any solutions to what you see as a problem and it would seem that you have no knowledge or experience of what running a business entails. You will just keep saying stuff is "too expensive" and I will keep asking for evidence of what "too expensive" actually means and what you think should be done about it. It isn't going anywhere.

Chippers aren't a public service. They are businesses.

Phew, I know I should bow out for my own sanity but:

What is price gouging?

What is reasonable profit?

How much can a business earn without gouging?

What are the rules?

What do you think should be done about businesses you precive to be "gouging"?

Genuinely, how would it all work if you were in charge?

These are genuine questions, yet you ignore them and just keep saying stuff is too expensive with no reasonable argument as to why you think this is the case.

Sorry, but what reasonable argument have you made? You have provided anecdotal evidence of nothing other than that a business put up their prices somewhere.

Look, there are lots of things that for me, don't offer value for money, so I don't buy them but I don't go around accusing the reatailer/producer/wholesaller of wrong doing.

You are accusing people of what you consider wrongdoing. Provide evidence for this. Perhaps provide a solution to this. But please stop just repeating the same argument based on what you "feel".

So, there's 5 simple questions above. If you wish to continue this discussion, please attempt to answer them. Or perhaps, you'd rather just leave it here? I've said plenty but I will engage if you put give me something to respond to that more than "I think it's too expensive"

The closest and next closest chippers to me are the same chain. Quality has cratered, while the price has risen by above the rate of food inflation over the past 18 months or so. Chalky chips, thin dimpled machine pressed burgers that are being reheated, sauces have changed presumably to cheaper ones.

Second closest (which isn't close at all) has got dearer too but the food is still the same.

I'm fine thanks. I just get a little frustrated trying to have a reasonable discussion with someone who cannot produde any reasoned argument for something beyond, "it's my opinion and others share it".

I don't own a food business but I do know people who do and I do know how difficult it is to make money from food. Food businesses fail at a crazy rate (presumably not because they are making obscene profits).

Although, if you do care about my feelings, how about trying to answer a few of those simple questions? I feel undervalued being ignored so much 😉

Ok so the chipper isn’t making the profit as the price of potatoes has gone up.

Is the farmer making massive profits?

If not who is?

So today all of a sudden you own a chipper and charge 3.50 for a bag of chips and make 6% profit from every bag?

That's some turnaround to yesterday when you were cursing and complaining and calling people cowboys because they were selling a bag costing 4.30.

You own a pub too? You said yesterday about how you have to pay for MiWadi and tap water when you were trying to justify 3 euro for a dash of cordial.

I think now Kinley Delightful Zombie you're an ol' bluffer, how could you possibly own a chipper and not be aware of the cost rises over the last 12 months?

No because the farmer only put up the price to cover the extra costs he has incurred like petrol/diesel.

Also the delivery company has put up the price because of petrol/diesel.

And the company supplying the oil have put up the price because oil now cost more for him to import and also delivery costs are up because of petrol/diesel.

The guy selling you the salt, vinegar, napkins puts the price up because the items cost him more to buy in and also his delivery costs have gone up.

The only people seem to be doing fine out of all this are the fuel/energy companies who saw profits increase the last few years.

I've said it in the Kildare forum enough. Romayos. They have their own trucks so I presume a central kitchens doing the prep

The chipper hasn’t kept up with the times; likewise with the Chinese takeaway with 500 items on the menu and a bank of microwaves out the back.

If I want vaguely disappointing greasy food then I’d rather go to Supermacs these days than the local chipper. Undercooked chips, pressure cooker chicken, and pre battered mystery fish being passed off as haddock or cod isn’t going to work for the modern consumer.

You said and I quote...

"Our place is 3.50 for a bag at the min. and I know for a fact we're barely making less than 20 cent off a bag".

You then finished off your post with... "It's a **** time to own a hospitality business honestly".

You also said earlier "We have to pay for the MiWadi and the tap water".

That's what I'm on about. You clearly tried to give the impression you own the business.

For some reason you keep trying to twist 3 euro MiWadi's into free MiWadis that "we're not making any money off of". For someone who works in a restaurant you should be able to read the simple receipt that clearly showed 2 lunches costing 40 euro were also paid for along with the 3 euro MiWadi, but then again maybe they don't allow you near the till's.

How can that add up to a 50% increase though?

Why didn’t the price of chips fall when diesel fell during covid? Or did the price actually fall but due to demand it went up thus absorbing the decrease?

Do chippers not use domestic grown potatoes or are they all imported?

It would be interesting to see how much Spanish spurs have gone up since 2020.

I wonder would that be the large increase that may account for a 50% increase?

The UK supplies most of the potatoes for Irish chippers....

https://agriinsider.ie/irish-potatoes-keep-your-eyes-peeled/