Liverpool FC Team Talk, Gossip, Rumours 2024/25

The more I think of it, the more the PGMOL coming out to say it was "significant huma error" on Saturday was just lazy and wrong. How did they know it was human error? What are the VAR protocols and what was and wasn't followed? What are the instructions regarding speeding up decisions and could this have played a role? What are the communications protocols and were they followed by either the VAR, AVAR and the referee?

Those were all questions that needed to be asked, but they were able to answer all of those in about an hour or so after the incident? Did they speak to the referee or VAR to get their side of the story? Nope, they just threw those at Stockley Park under the bus so they could avoid all responsibility for their own system failings. And this is clear when you consider they have, in the time since identified the following areas they need to look at,

• A new VAR Communication Protocol will be developed to enhance the clarity of communication between the referee and the VAR team in relation to on-field decisions

• As an additional step to the process, the VAR will confirm the outcome of the VAR check process with the AVAR before confirming the final decision to the on-field officials.”

So if a new communication protocol needs to be developed and additional steps need to be added, how was it human error that led to this? Sure it played a role in not identifying it was offside, but everything else fell apart as well and some of that was not human error. This also puts to rest their statement that it was human error, because that means you change nothing but make sure the humans know what they are doing. Everything else worked as it should so there would be no need to make any new protocols or add steps.

I've just noticed that myself now after you highlighted it. Went back to see it myself. It definitely sounds like he says the word "off". There's another word in there said by someone.

Thought we couldn't change the VAR rules half way through the season (well about a sixth!)

So send them over every Thursday then, inflict the same pain on everybody else.

Do they now stick up on big screen sometimes that player is offside or am I imaging it. What I can’t understand is that there is comment from var to referee to check the call or pass on the result ie the player is off or onside instead of check complete

Onana > DeGea 😆

Am I the only one wondering why in the statement after the game they declared they never checked it, that it was the reason there was no lines, and now they release a video showing they did draw lines?

What?

That extra CL spot looks like it could be in danger for the PL

Thursday night jokes seem to have dried up ?

It was shown on the screens.

Had the ref at halftime talked to both managers, and told them a legit goal was chalked off, I'm certain the Spurs manager would have allowed us a free goal in the second half, he seems a sensible guy. And it's not like we've not seen that a 100 times before in football, one team allowing the other to score because of a fck up of some sort.

Although if it was left to Nunez to score the free goal it would probably end up like this 😄

It would never happen and he knows but there's no harm in keeping it in the headlines and keeping the PGMOL on its toes.

His exact quote was “As a football person I think the outcome should be a replay.”

Definitely a bit of gamesmanship with that comment, I suspect. We all know that's never happening

Trent was more circumspect:

What happened to us on the weekend was very disappointing and frustrating. It's gone. We have to move forward. We spoke about things but there's nothing we can do as players about what has gone on. We're focused on a different competition.

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Earned 3 points ha, Jota sent off for zero touch tackles, Jones send off for a dramatic Hollywood freeze frame shot, Gomez denied a clear penalty, Diaz goal ruled out, Matip own goal to take the points. That is not earning it in all fairness.

It's good to ask, put the pressure on, simple fact, and it is a fact, the table is currently lying, and now will continue to lie until the end of the season, and only then will be know what it means

Nothing to say Spurs wouldn't have won if that goal was allowed. Would have been a whole different game with different approaches from both sides. We will never know.

Agreed BUT there's no way refereeing or implementation of VAR improves as a result of this. As long as you have incompetent, feckless idiots like Darren England anywhere near the controls, it shows that the culture there is all wrong.

Witness Mike Dean's recent comments on not wanting to send his mate to the screen to embarrass him. It's ingrained in refereeing culture over there. I used to have time for Michael Oliver as a referee but not so much now - the standard there is appalling really.