Dublin Airport New Runway/Infrastructure.

Legal documents are case sensitive now? The "freemen on the land" who think a comma in the wrong place gets them a free gaff will have a field day!

An interesting PrimeTime coming up this evening.

https://www.rte.ie/news/primetime/2023/1003/1408594-how-an-unexpected-dublin-flight-path-has-caused-airport-outrage/

Hilarious, they got planning permission to build in 2018, but the flight paths (which were published and explained by the DAA in 2015) were “unexpected” lol! Then of course the day after the runway opened flights were going over from 7am and when she got home at midday they were still going over? Despite the runway not moving to 7am ops for months and it being open for only a few hours a day for several weeks.

It’s horsesh*t like this that winds people up. If someone has a legit issue then raise it using the truth about the experience, stop spouting bull in the hope of sympathy! I didn’t watch the programme but I’d bet PT didn’t challenge her on any of this either?!?

On another note, this is the same woman who posted a video on twitter some months ago giving out about the noise of a 330 flying by, yet you could hear her whispering to the camera, so it can’t have been that loud.

No doubt a file image of Qatar. There's no stand 14B at Dublin.

Would you have a pin or coordinate for it please?

It’s not on the centerline, it’s less than a mile north of it. Crazy place to build a home in the last few years alright.

No issues with people knowing where I live to be honest. https://maps.app.goo.gl/RQRcsjYwpUgktVdr7

Google will blur your house if you like.

I was actually more interested in how a house could be built out of corrugated steel in this day and age and still meet modern compliance requirements, so I wanted to have a look. Perhaps that's the issue here is that the house is built out of the wrong material and that's why they're hearing the noise more.

As far as I can see, her point is that others were offered buyouts or insulation based on an expected flight path. They were not offered this and along with their own research into expected flight paths the assumption was made that they would not be affected. So now that they are affected, why are they not being treated in the same was as others. That's what I gleaned from the piece anyway.

Bog standard house that

That's all been discussed extensively here on more than one occasion. It would be worth your while going back to read up.

Briefly, as I recall it, there must be a minimum divergence between the departure path from one runway and the go-around path from the parallel. In Dublin's military airspace, Weston and the mountains are factors in favour of the north runway being the one to diverge.

Don't forget that in due course Dublin is supposed to move to mixed mode, which would see some parallel approaches and parallel departures. Clearly, effective separation in all circumstances is key to this working successfully.

Have you moved out yet Brian?😂

Some thoughts on the program tonight

-35db was quoted as the regulation noise level for inside a house. Only true for non-events. Events such as passing aircraft or trains can be 45db (Regulation BS8233) . The DBs will vary between take offs and landing.

- The DAA guy will insulate your house if it breaches 63db but not 62db or below. This is an absolute dereliction of duty of care, planning permission or not, 62db would be a horrific internal noise level and wouldn't meet modern regulations.

-The airport contributes to 2.3% of the economy. There's loads of money and this project has not been properly costed. They got it on the cheap, the true cost is whatever it cost so far plus whatever it takes to get any affected houses down to BS8233 standards.

I assume Rte gave her the soft focus and didn't ask her what she was expecting when she bought a house under an existing runway?

Similar to the Dr who built a house 1 mile from the end of a runway. Irrespective of routing an aircraft takes after takeoff you are always going to be 1 mile from the end of the runway. So why don’t they ask those difficult questions “what did you realistically expect when you built so close to an airport ?”

like the people in Norfolk in the U.K. who wanted a house by the sea and who built on sand/chalk cliffs close to the sea in an area known for high rates of erosion who now see their homes disappearing in to the sea. “Oh we knew, but we thought we had longer, insurers would never insure our homes so we knew the risk”.

BS=British Standard, this isn’t Britain this does not apply here. Hint: find an equivalent EU directive to quote. People will take you more seriously if you have done proper, complete and accurate research not just the first thing found on the internet.