"Green" policies are destroying this country

If we've to drastically cut emissions, and lately this thread is hinting that it needs to be done now, then why aren't we imposing driving restrictions, flying restrictions, importing crap from far flung places, etc, etc. It's an emergency or it's not.

It's like some of the councillors know a lot of people are struggling (though I'd say the cost of living is blown out of all proportion) and upping the LPT isn't warranted. The council should be cleaning the streets anyway regardless of the LPT or it's value. Surely it's a core thing to be doing and shouldn't be dependent on any LPT to cover it.

Street cleaning should be mandatory as you say and DCC are a disgrace.

However, as a Dublin resident, I dont want the LPT increased because a third of it goes outside Dublin to prop up the other counties.

If the money stayed locally, fair enough. But it doesnt.

The councils know this & so its not worth them voting to increase it.

It is the saving on the reduced rate for multi-million houses. Left-wing parties like PBP and SF joined with centre parties FF and FG to give a rate reduction in Dublin City Council to millionaires in D4 rather than hire extra people to clean the streets. A double whammy for those without a job having to walk around a dirty city centre during the day.

Council grants were reduced by the amount that LPT raises when it was brought in. It replaced central government funding.

Things have greatly improved in Fingal, with the council doing a lot more, because they didn't reduce the LPT.

This is my problem with all these shiny new so called hypotheticated taxes, there just an excuse to add to the overall tax burden without delivering anything in return.

In the context of this thread glad to hear pplicy consideration is being given to holding off any further increases in one of those so called hypotheticated tax - 'fuel duty/carbon taxes'

Street Sweeping in my area happens maybe twice a year in a lucky year, once a year mostly and some years not at all. Not in a big county so I do wonder what the crew of the Street Sweeping team are doing for the other 225+ working days in the year. Most areas across the county seem equally unattended.

The storm drain cleaning is next to non-existent. The initial Tidy Towns green initiative to plant trees back in the day (good idea) means alot of semi-mature deciduous trees and boy do these like to block the storm drains. All the drains are choked as a result. Neighbour down the road commented about the rain pooling on the road like never before and says it's evidence of climate change. 🙄

I went out the other evening and cleared out two of the storm drains which were blocked, that will alleviate my neighbour's climate change worries.

I've lived in a few towns and villages and when there I've seen road sweepers like clockwork each week. In Athlone when I was there that bollox driving the yellow road sweeper would, without fail, be out around Athlone Castle and in over the bridge every bloody morning at 8.45am, right at peak morning traffic. He drove me mad every single day trying to get out of town to work. Even where I am now the yellow truck goes each Tuesday around the town, and then onto another town. It has a set routine each week. And this in a county that has nothing compared to Dublin city. Blaming filthy streets on not raising the LPT is pure and utter bollox from whoever is suggesting it.

The source of all climate disinformation.

I know, I was trying to keep it simple. Thing is that most of green believers cant grasp basic math. If you try to point out that they cant "just stop oil" and switch to so called "green" energy which require complete rebuild of energy creation and transfer simply because there is not enough material required to do so (not to mention time) the answer is always the same. Talk about some experimental technology and firm belief that it will all be sorted some time in the future and that someone will figure it out eventually. All that new promising technology in development kind of stuff.

R&D are cool and we are moving forward yet to figure out what will work in the real world condition, iron out imperfections and to make it work require time and a lot of money. Cutting the branch on which we sit in order to get higher will cause the exact opposite.

Yes.

But around Dublin 15 anyway, there have been significant improvements in the last year or two.

As evidenced by the state of the streets, there clearly isn't. The people of Dublin City have spoked through their elected representatives - more money in their pocket instead of clean streets. That is democracy and I accept the people have spoken. Won't stop me saying that I think the people got it wrong.

The reason why net zero by 2050 was introduced was because we blew past the targets set by the COP conferences which allowed for a slower and less Draconian transition. The target was to hold temp rise to 1.5c , the point when many of the tipping points will strongly kick in. Since we are almost at 1.5c temp rise already we look to be on target to fail to hold climate change on check as per 2050.

The predictions set out by the IPCC in their summery reports are entirely worse than what the climate change deniers would have everyone believe.

The change needed is not unachievable, the resources are there. We built a fossil fuel economy in less than 100 years and we built the electric grid in about 50. These are achievements on a similar scale to the achievement of net zero. What is lacking is political will to drive the change and useful fools who buy into the fossil fuel industries properganda that it is impossible.

Let it also be said that I will always take the opinion of the IPCC experts over the opinion of some internet blowhards.

My argument is that cleaning streets shouldn't be linked to LPT. When there was no LPT, the streets were being cleaned. Linking them is bullshit and saying we won't clean yer streets because we aren't getting enough LPT should be enough to **** each and every councillor who suggests it out at the next election.

Far as I could tell DCC is more concerned about Palestine than Phibsboro. I doubt that anyone who can actually read a balance sheet even bothers with elections for that rabble.

Reminds me of Harris's concern that the lack of accommodation for foreign students could tarnish Irelands reputation abroad.

Oh, I see the money for cleaning streets grows on trees, maybe the cleaners could collect as they go about their unpaid business.

The streets haven't been cleaned - see the state of Dublin city - so how the LPT is needed to clean them, unless the magical money pays for it.