Clontarf to City Centre Cycle & Bus Priority Project discussion (renamed)

Looking at these drawings the inbound location for stop 618 is not accurate at all in both the existing location and proposed location. Looking here you'd think the stop was right at Newcommen Bridge but it's not. It at least 50-60 metres further down the road meaning it's even closer to stop 619 and a bigger gap to stop 616 which is the point of the original complaint.

On the outbound route stop 516 has now been moved to this location already so I assume that this is going to be a permanent move. It will make for a very small stop here compared to the old stop because there's a road right beside it and then the bridge. You'll barely get one bus at that location. The old 518 stop was again much closer to the Five Lamps junction and was much bigger as well. Ironically given the desire to have bus stops downstream of traffic lights this stop is right before two sets of traffic lights at Newcommen bridge. As the road on both sides of the bridge is the same width and the footpath is the same size it seems odd that this stop wasn't moved to the far side of the bridge. It would definitely even out the distances between the three stops 515, 516 and 519 so I think the justification for this location is a little weak.

Just before anybody responds I'm not against relocation of stops where necessary but the way this was done was very poor and they left themselves open to the complaints they are getting on it.

Cycled into town on this yesterday, it's still a mess after Fairview park, small bits and pieces of it open only, they're really taking their time on that side.

So you end up out on the road at times as the lane is blocked off with barriers and then you are under the gaze of furious motorists wondering why Eamon Ryan spend 100 million on these cycle lanes when we wont even use the bloody things.

Hopefully they get their arses in gear and get the inbound route finished soon.

a non-bus-stop post, it's been a while!

While I agree with you on the way things have been handled, I'm not sure what a better final solution would be. All stops inbound are in suitable locations in terms of the space available for a bus stop. Stop 618 obviously should be further out towards Fairview but there isn't really a suitable spot given the narrow footpaths. It has to be a good bit back from Newcomen Bridge and would then be too close to Stop 616.

Two potential solutions, (acknowledging, for the record, that nothing will change):

1) go back in time, consult residents & experts and don't ignore guidelines. Reorder spacing/location of all stops. Consult with Irish Rail and don't remove the stop at Preston Street, the shiny new entrance to Connolly Dart station!

Or

2) reinstate stops in North Strand which can be served by local routes only (6, 8, 10, 21, 22, 58), while the 5x D-Spine and 3x H-Spine routes should skip these stops to speed up service for the suburbs. Apply the same logic to every second stop which are served by numerous local and core routes.

For the record, there is plenty of room for bus stops in North Strand. The road carriage is 21m wide with 46m between junctions. Despite claiming lack of space in their justification document, it's a massive stretch.

Completely agree. They have those stupid barriers up every 50 metres just to stop you using them, even though they appear to be fine. Plus, there's been nobody working on them for ages, that I could see anyway.

you have to show us their version and how its to prove the facts are with you.

I fully acknowledge this isn't end of the world stuff. It's just been handled so badly by DCC, then having to defend it here against people who consistently misquote numbers and dismiss legitimate concerns, it's just incredibly frustrating.

I'm fully done with it now. It's not going to change. At this point, I just hope enough fuss has been made, so they won't repeat these mistakes when they upgrade the remaining 230km of bus lanes.

The current setup at Fairview outbound beside Brú pub. While it is starting to look good, this paving is going extremely slowly.

They seem to just do bits and pieces each day and then stop. Also along this section, I have counted at least 8 times that it was dug up, covered and then dug up again.

These guys are in no rush to finish the job!

I reckon they’re running out of money so can’t afford the manpower needed to finish it on time. Or someone, with control of the purse strings, needs to release another few million. It is the taxpayers money after all. No end to that in some people’s eyes.

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That’s me. Let’s just wait and see. We’ve no bloody choice. 😋