Sinn Fein and how do they form a government dilemma

Where is that great republican Pearse McAuley these days? Last heard of doing time for beating up his wife, will Martin be organising another party when he gets out this time?

Wonder if we did an audit of how all party’s treated women or incidences of abuse, how things would look?

Judge described a case as the worst he had ever seen this week.

One has to ask where the outrage is about the political party involved is.

Seems outrage is a reserved matter for some.

Doubt it would be worse than how Gerry treated his poor niece.

The point is Francie as a SF supporter you can never take the moral high ground. No matter what FF/FG have done your lot have done far worse.

How many members of FF/FG have murdered children etc?

The cover up was to protect a certain party and its terrosist comrades.

Those who ignore abuse and hand wave it away because their favourite terrorists did it are the ones you need to take a long hard look at themselves.

That is bull too.

I didn't ignore any such thing.

I have seen abuse badly handled by almost every organisation in the country.

I have seen politicians cover it up across the political spectrum.

I have seen people use selective victims to score points.

And I would never define a political party by using those victims for cheap dirty points.

That is what you are doing when you cannot score points any other way. Out will come the tired old list of victims.

I'd need a long shower if I debated that way.

I'm 'lacking in empathy' from from someone who selects victims to get outraged about?

Give me a break.

I'll leave you to it. Not lowering myself to that cheap emotive rubbish.

A broad coalition of the left would last about a week if the acrimony on display tonight amongst their Twitter armies was to be repeated at the cabinet table.

A PBP activist started calling SF “FF Nua” and one of the SF lifers took offence to it.

An article in the Newsletter outlining Sinn Fein's close ties with Hamas won't link properly and I can't post it here. Probably for the best, as the point isn't really about Sinn Fein and Hamas, birds of a feather and all that, but, more about the difficulties of Sinn Fein finding coalition partners that are in the same continent as them when it comes to foreign policy.

Sinn Fein is anti-EU, fervently anti-British, pro-Hamas, pro-Chavez, pro-Maduro, pro-Spanish separatists, recently pro-Russia etc. Apart from PBP, none of the other political parties are remotely close to Sinn Fein when it comes to this. They are way off the dial in respect of normal foreign relationships. Am I wrong in thinking this could be fatal to any coalition, not necessarily at the start, but as soon as the latest issue abroad erupts? For example, would we have been as supportive of Ukraine under a SF government? And what would that have said about us as a people, is that who we really are?

This is supposed to be the Politics forum. These answers are dodgy even for After Hours.

I am fervently pro the EU and would never have voted for a party who were 'anti' it.

Contrary to the popular propaganda beloved of some they were not taking advantage of Brexit and their position had evolved long before Brexit.

SF have been saying that our place is in the EU for a long time now.

Sinn Féin in the EU: The Evolution of Self-Determination Policy Post Brexit | UNU-CRIS

And they also work with many organisations in Britain and with British political parties and people. They are 'anti British' policy in Ireland but the 'fervently anti British' stchick is more of popular propaganda beloved of many.

That's what any voter should be doing for themselves.. Not listening to emotive and crude party political propaganda, like they are 'anti EU'. They simply are not.

remind me how they are twisting and turning? SF dont support Hamas, but they support the Palestinian struggle. It confuses me how thats twisting and turning. SF have supported the Palestinian struggle for decades as have many northern nationalists/republicans.

If that was an effort to deceive it was futile and naïve.

When challenged I haven't heard them reverse from their opinion on world affairs/politics.

It isn't the same as FG or FF. They have met Hamas and have not denied it.

I think Hamas have to be talked to just as the Israeli's have to be talked too and I thought talking was the only way to achieve peace here. Hume was accused of the same thing MLMD is being accused of BTW by his own party sometimes too.

If a voter does not inform themselves that is their issue.

The reality is Vin, political parties will change opinions, that is a fact.

I would expect SF to be no different, I think party opinion/policy will change to suit certain situations while personal opinions may differ.

That's nothing unusual although it will be portrayed as different because it's SF.

Look at the current Taoiseach's opinions in 2005 on the Israeli/Palestinian situation for instance, for proof of that.