Dairy Chitchat 4, an udder new thread.

Glad my cows wont be eating it

Well if u back urself into a corner where many fed silage during the drought andvzero grazed first cut and had a poor second u have little choice.All these problems are from over stocked farms.

I know the lad is only trolling but it could well be middling silage. But better than nothing all the same.

I think most guys are testing silage before cutting at this stage and know what they have, can be targeted at other groups of cattle if not up to scratch for cows easily.

Yeah I wouldn’t have any fear of it any way. Be fed before Christmas

A teagasc trend just like putting cows out in bad weather in spring when they wud better off in a nice warm cubicle shed with early may silage.But pn highly stocked farms first cut is late they need bulk or its been zeo grazed.so u end up like the guy making in october chancing his arm for gd weather.

I cut my first cut on the 14th of may and made 149 bales on my highly stocked milking platform on the 12th of may

I might keep a few extra next year to reduce the surplus bale count

Fair enough cattle wouldn't have worked 👍🏽

It’ll be cheaper than going hand in cap next march looking for silage paying 40/50 euro a bale for silage in a bale which you’ve no idea of quality …fook the begrudges …correct move …..I’ve 30 acres I’ve decided not to bale …cows in at night from Monday …will be zero grazing that at 70 euros per load along with 2 bales of silage every night and grass by day for next month or so

I have a small herd. Im not in derogation.

I dont claim any Bps but i am compliant at 220.

If i was milking 70 or 80 cows or less, god almighty wont make drop any cows or lease any extra land at huge expense.

Farmers need to stop bickering and stand together.

All the changes being made are not given a chance to bed in.

This is death by regulation, its derogation now, its going to be something else next month, value of slurry halved, max numbers on grazing platform, year round slurry storage, cpo land by private companies/ the state

Lies are being told at state level and through the media to destroy our reputation

A line in the sand has to be drawn.

No more.

This shite will push people to the edge.

We lost so many young men to suicide during the death of the celtic tiger due to being unable to provide for their famillies and fear of failure. This will happen again.

Make no mistake, what we are seeing now is eu/state sponsored form of bullying against dairy farming.

We are the only industry bearing the brunt of climate change. It was announced today that 90% of companies in ireland couldnt give a shite about climate change. Their customers dont care. Its not profitable

The department, the ministers, the lying **** of fosil funded emviromemtal experts, the eu and the green agenda are trying to **** us at all costs.

Im sick of being a pariah, a polluter, a calf killer and a general farmer ****.

Im making no more concessions. If its not advantageous for my business it wont be done.

The farming lobby is a disgrace, the anti dairy farmer agenda has successfully created division and destroyed any affective lobbying power.

The public hate us.

A stand has to be made.

I never claimed bps.

Bord bia no issue.

Never had an inspection. No pressure from authoritys. Im not taking the piss and doing anything to stand out.

Why should you take a financial hit just because some bureaucrate says so. **** them.

There will be people who will say if we stop claiming bps, the department will change the rules to catch you.

There has to come a moment in time were farmers say no more.

Less regulation, not more.

It’s not that simple unfortunately

as far as I’m aware if you’re stocked over 220 and not exporting slurry you are breaking the law and the co Co could decide to go after these farms if they get more common

also if you want to take on sone land and the owner wants sfp back how do you claim it if you’re not claiming anything yourself ?

it’s nice to see someone not bound by payments but I don’t know if it can be wide spread solution country wide

Plus, there are talks of a certain cohort not being allowed to register on the fertiliser database.

Advisors and so called experts who rely on us to line there pocket will hardly say any less ….there’s no issue as long as your compliant as regards slurry storage for stock on hand and not polluting any rivers

council or dept won’t have much interest in you as what’s there mean of fining you

on the entitlements ….owner can lease tgem out or sell them

as long as your bird bia approved that’s all coop are worried about

more and more people will go this route out of nesecity and more power to them

Do the sums lad youd be as well off getting entitlements and keeping less cows and staying within the law