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RTE Gold discussion thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,242 ✭✭✭Glaceon


    I see they acknowledged it on their Facebook page and said the listen back option on the player won’t have the issue.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,636 ✭✭✭tinytobe


    The playlist of RTE Gold is really good.

    RTE should have used the 252 transmitter for Gold, instead of a re-broadcast of Radio 1. Back when LW was still broadcasting and if the intention was to keep LW alive for so many years, RTE Gold would have certainly been the better choice.

    My car has a DAB+ radio, but sadly RTE turned Digital radio off.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,617 ✭✭✭ford fiesta


    John Kenny is in for Rick O'Shea today and for the next 2 weeks.



  • Registered Users Posts: 819 ✭✭✭alzer100


    You probably know this, but you can just Bluetooth your phone to your car system and play RTE Gold. I drive around the country a lot and find the mobile coverage is excellent.



  • Registered Users Posts: 95 ✭✭ZaK23-54


    Any chance RTÉ Gold could get Mark Cagney, Andy Ruane and some of the other Radio legends..?

    Any other suggestions?

    And what about Suzanne Duffy?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,636 ✭✭✭tinytobe


    Yep, and that's a good choice as well.

    I just think that FM isn't fit for purpose anymore. Too little choice out in the countryside, too protective ILRs, etc...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,293 ✭✭✭Azatadine


    It depends on location really. There are some areas where the coverage can be quite patchy.



  • Registered Users Posts: 819 ✭✭✭alzer100


    Maybe it depends on your network but personally I have found the coverage to be excellent.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,293 ✭✭✭Azatadine




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,612 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    It doesn't have budgets to get in external presenters.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,773 ✭✭✭GSF


    They’ve gone very quiet on the schedule extension they were big on mentioning in January and February this year. No news of the daily Dave Fanning show or the other new joiners. Maybe the RTE budget black hole has put paid to it all ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,617 ✭✭✭ford fiesta


    there are external presenters on the schedule: al dunne, mickey mac, eric moore



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,649 ✭✭✭RINO87


    "JK on the Radio" has been a busy man the last few years - deputizes regularly on Gold, sometimes on Late Date, has had the Classic Rock hour (remember 2020 when it was on 4 nights a week??!!), his own show on 2XM, League of Ireland live links most weekends, cricket reports and has even been doing a few live GAA commentaries.

    He seemed to almost disappear for a while there, only popping up reading the sports news, or the swimming during the olympics.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,617 ✭✭✭ford fiesta


    John Kenny sounds "live" when filling in for Rick, though he does not give out the whatsapp / request number or read out any requests ??



  • Registered Users Posts: 819 ✭✭✭alzer100


    With the exception of Ronan Collins, I think the weekday presenter led programming is live. If they didn't get John Kenny it would be Aidan Leonard, Al Dunne or Amanda Fennelly. I think the time slot 1-4 pm is suitable to John Kenny and his filling in was arranged weeks before Rick O'Shea took time off. The not giving out WhatsApp / playing requests are probably just his thing. Although last week I'm sure I heard him mentioning some folks in relation to a request. But then again I really wasn't taking much notice.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 863 ✭✭✭amlinopta


    Can’t be live on some of the days anyway, given he is reading sports news on Radio One while the show is on Gold. Was also in Paris last week for the game v France, or else commentating off tube



  • Registered Users Posts: 819 ✭✭✭alzer100


    I don't listen to RTE Radio 1 so could be way off here, but could it be a possibility that the sports news is recorded whilst he is filling in for Rick O'Shea?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,617 ✭✭✭ford fiesta


    I've listened to John over the last 2 weeks on Gold and his shows are defo not live



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,773 ✭✭✭GSF


    I don’t think he’s live. Not having an all request Friday is a give away



  • Registered Users Posts: 819 ✭✭✭alzer100


    That's really disappointing, nothing against John Kenny but I'd rather they would just go to automation than try to fool Gold's listeners into thinking that the 1-4 pm slot is being presented live as is the standard with Rick O'Shea. I really don't know the whole idea behind this as they would normally get a mixture of "live" presenters made up of Aidan Leonard, Amanda Fennelly or Al Dunne to cover a "live" slot.



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  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 6,573 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sheep Shagger


    Sort from the shoes listed on the website is it pretty much all automated/voice tracked?



  • Registered Users Posts: 819 ✭✭✭alzer100


    I think most if not all of the weekend programming is pre-recorded. It looks like pre-recorded programs are now starting to creep into the weekday schedule as well. However, I don't think they use 'automated voice tracking' on RTE Gold, so to speak*

    They seem to do either two things:

    1. Record the actual slot/show 'live'

    2. Record the presenters voice links seperate and mix or integrate those voice links to the music audio tracks by an in-house engineer to create a pre-recorded slot/show. US syndicated radio shows use this method of producing a recorded program.

    *Automated voice tracking in itself can be a software program that plays pre-recorded presenter voice links at set designated intervals. Multiple US local radio stations use this method for weekday programming to affiliate with certain radio personalities. For example "On Air With Ryan Seacrest" The problem is it can sound quite clunky as the whole show is put together live by a software program. I don't think RTE Gold use this method but nevertheless I hate voice tracking in any form apart from its necessity to produce a pre-recorded syndicated radio program.



  • Registered Users Posts: 819 ✭✭✭alzer100


    TBH I am a listener to RTE Gold and what you have just mentioned is what I fear. I think any service that is not providing revenue for RTE is going to be a point of focus. It would take an intervention from the minister but Backhurst could make a very strong case for its closure due to RTE's finances. If this does come to pass, hopefully Gold can be saved again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,773 ✭✭✭GSF


    they have gone very quiet in their expansion plans. back in January they were saying Ronan Collins was just the 1st of several changes coming



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,617 ✭✭✭ford fiesta


    Rick is back today !!!

    But it was a fairly risky move not having a live presenter in Rick's slot over the last 2 weeks (the risk of losing listeners and a general interest in RTE Gold)

    I think the John Kenny shows were the longest that RTE Gold has substituted live shows with voicetracking

    A listener will stay with a slot on a station, if there is listener interaction and a call for them to send in whatsapp requests.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 975 ✭✭✭medoc


    What would it take to allow Gold to start taking adverts and sponsorships? Audiences are small so rates would be low but it would be a start to building up the station bit by bit and expanding the live programming. It’s the only way it will survive long term.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,814 ✭✭✭lertsnim


    The minister would have to OK it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 95 ✭✭ZaK23-54


    I hope RTÉ Gold survives the cuts.

    Sure it has a low cost model? For me it is the only place to hear a large variety of hits from the past 60 years..



  • Registered Users Posts: 819 ✭✭✭alzer100


    I think running the automated service RTE Gold is relatively low cost although programmers and presenter salaries would add to that. It must be understood that programmers and weekday presenters are employed by RTE but are dedicated to RTE Gold, so if they were to axe the service they would have to offer redundancies or redeployment. Axing a popular service for demonstration purposes would be silly IMO.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 819 ✭✭✭alzer100


    Did I miss something? Did RTE Gold announce this at anytime? But Dave Fanning is on "live apparently" right now 6-8 pm.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,341 ✭✭✭SPDUB


    It was in the EPG listings for today, don't know if they did more than that .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,505 ✭✭✭irlirishkev


    Yeah there he is.. Personally I'd take another hour of ABC to XTC rather than 2 hours of Dave, but that's just me.



  • Registered Users Posts: 819 ✭✭✭alzer100


    Same here. The show is billed as being "live" and Fanning does make reference to time as in "here till 8 O'clock" but I don't think the show is live. I don't really like Fanning as a presenter tbh and hate when he tends to go on but his links are very brief and they sound kind of engineered in the same way that the Ronan Collins slot sounds. I accept so far he's only just done one slot but again I think ABC to XTC is a super program.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,741 ✭✭✭zoobizoo


    There's no need to shoehorn Dave in there.


    He's a spent force.


    ABC to XTC is a great show.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,617 ✭✭✭ford fiesta


    there's a new programme The Live Vault with John Daly on Sunday evenings 6pm



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,421 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,505 ✭✭✭irlirishkev


    Caught a bit of this while making the dinner last week. Very enjoyable. Great to hear a short interview with John Prine as well.

    I'll be listening back to these I'd say. Bit like Gold Lounge, the time doesn't quite suit, but worth listening to for sure.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,617 ✭✭✭ford fiesta


    do they really need to bring in an outside presenter for a new show ? especially that they are cutting costs throughout RTE.

    there are plenty of RTE staff radio presenters who could easily present a show like this.



  • Registered Users Posts: 819 ✭✭✭alzer100


    Probably voluntary? Maybe I'm being a bit naive here but they could have produced these programmes before any of the payments controversies broke out. I think this programme may only run for a couple of weeks. IIRC RTE Gold ran a niche specialised programme temporarily last year Sundays 6-7pm.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,773 ✭✭✭GSF


    That Sunday night programme will be funded by the special sound and vision fund from the BAI



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,020 ✭✭✭cute geoge


    I see you can listen back to the weekly classic countdown with Will Leahy ,

    RTE for all their faults have really bullt up a top drawer service with rte gold just a pity it can not be received on f.m.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,201 ✭✭✭Declan A Walsh


    I often use the RTE Player to catch up with the latest edition of ABC to XTC, because I cannot always manage to hear of all it from 5pm to 6pm on Saturdays. For example, I missed the first 20 minutes this evening!



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,621 ✭✭✭channelsurfer2


    have had the opportunity to listen to Ronan Collins for the last few weeks at different days. Overall its a nice mix of music but its minimum effort put in by him to record the links. Probably no more than 20minutes I would say per day.



  • Registered Users Posts: 95 ✭✭ZaK23-54


    Interesting to know what RTÉ Gold DJ’s earn. So how much does Ronan get for 100 minutes work a week?

    Id say it is 5 times what presenters earn on independent stations?



  • Registered Users Posts: 819 ✭✭✭alzer100


    I don't really consider Ronan Collins as being a full-time RTE Gold presenter as let's say Will Leahy or Rick O'Shea. I think most of Gold's weekend programming is provided voluntarily. Speaking of Ronan Collins, I'm not too sure if he is a direct employee or a contractor. That probably leaves Aidan Leonard, Michael Cahill and a couple of people that are behind the scenes involved in running the stations automation which I would say does not comprise of many. I don't think the folks involved with Gold are on big salaries and if anyone is they were on those levels of pay before they were deployed to RTE Gold.

    Considering any faults that RTE Gold may have generally, I still believe it's one of the things that RTE got right. Radio stations carrying similar formats around the country are poor imitations IMO. And in fairness it's thanks to people such as John Clarke and Aidan Leonard.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,773 ✭✭✭GSF


    Used to be 4 and a half staff running it - Aidan, Amanda, producer Truffles , Will & Rick. The rest were presumably freelancers paid by the hour I’d imagine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,649 ✭✭✭RINO87


    Ronan must be a contractor or he would have had to go at 65/6 no?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,617 ✭✭✭ford fiesta


    The permanent RTE staff that are involved in presenting and/or producing RTE Gold are:

    Aidan, Will, Rick, Amanda, Truffles (Eric Threlfall) and Michael Cahill. Sometimes Paul Moriarty and John Kenny fill in.

    I don't think Ronan was ever Permanent with RTE, certainly not before he retired on Radio 1



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,201 ✭✭✭Declan A Walsh


    I take it that Dave Fanning, John Daly and John Connolly are all on contract so.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,617 ✭✭✭ford fiesta


    I would imagine so - along with the other weekend presenters



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