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Hamas strike on Israel - Threadbans in op - mod warning in OP updated 19/10/23

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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Sky News defence and security analyst, Michael Clarke, believes that this was done as a means of getting their hostages out; as a form of negotiation tactic with Hamas.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,768 ✭✭✭thomas 123


    Please don't be antisemetic.

    Seriously though - give your head a wobble.

    The European Jewish community of the early 20th century would likely be ashamed for the conduct of the current state of Israel having suffered so much themselves.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,222 ✭✭✭crusd


    You do know that the Jewish population of Palestine in 1900 was tiny. There were far more Christians.

    A Jewish state has the right to exist but so does a Palestinian. Hamas and the IDF / Israeli Government are scum



  • Registered Users Posts: 20,047 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    That buikding must have planned the attacks, naughty building. If the people in it had been involved, they wouldn't have been warned. Typical Israeli mentality, sowing the seeds for the future for the next bitter harvest.



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  • Indeed.

    It's quite remarkable how the Israeli intelligence agencies had no idea of the forthcoming attack but suddenly know all of Hamas's hideouts.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,206 ✭✭✭Markus Antonius


    Good grief. "but but but 6 million"

    Suckling straight from Netanyahoos teat.



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,028 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    Islamic Jihad would never kill 800 people in dublin, because we are not stealing their land and murdering their children, bombing their hospitals schools etc.



  • Registered Users Posts: 16,739 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre




  • Registered Users Posts: 3,284 ✭✭✭howiya


    The starvation of civilians as a method of warfare has been prohibited since the Geneva Conventions of 1949 and the Additional Protocols of 1977.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 13,866 ✭✭✭✭josip




  • Registered Users Posts: 20,047 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Yes, and so was that morning many years ago, when a bored Israeli tank crew fired a round into a Palestinian home in the very early hours of a morning, killing 7. Their first crime was to be Palestinians, their second was to be sleeping.



  • Registered Users Posts: 19,368 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump




  • Registered Users Posts: 3,305 ✭✭✭Francis McM


     The Muslims can go to countless other Muslim countries instead of breeding like ribbits in Palestine. Surely one country can be officially Jewish, especially after what the Jewish race went through in ww2. Their are countless officially Muslim states, they are all undemocratic S***holes compared to Israel.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,741 ✭✭✭Augme



    So the catholics in the North should be exterminated or else move down south?



  • Registered Users Posts: 19,368 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump



    Ah, is that how it works. Here was me thinking that States might have other requirements rather than just religion to immigrate to them


    Given many Israelis are dual nationals, perhaps those settlers arriving in from the US or Europe to live on recently stolen land might consider fuc^ing off back to them too



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,168 ✭✭✭Patrick2010


    Good old Philly McMahon decided it was a good time to let us know he supports Palestine

    https://twitter.com/PhillyMcMahon/status/1710962333613174886



  • Registered Users Posts: 698 ✭✭✭TedBundysDriver


    Hamas are human animals. Israeli army are human animals.



  • Registered Users Posts: 835 ✭✭✭mazdamiatamx5


    https://twitter.com/DAaronovitch/status/1711286782275240315?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet



  • Registered Users Posts: 19,368 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump



    It is sickening.

    Such photos will elicit much more sympathy than the one I posted above from the marketplace bombing of the people carrying the body on the makeshift stretcher through the rubble. But that one is sickening too. The person on the stretcher likely had a family and friends also.



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Hamas doesn't exist to defend Palestinian rights. If it were, they would have pursued the political and diplomatic route.

    Hamas exist to destroy Israel itself, as per its charter:

    Goals of the HAMAS:

    ​"The Islamic Resistance Movement is a distinguished Palestinian movement, whose allegiance is to Allah, and whose way of life is Islam. It strives to raise the banner of Allah over every inch of Palestine." (Article 6)

    On the destruction of Israel:

    "Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it." (Preamble)

    It's an openly genocidal organization.

    When Israel sends text messages to residents, asking them to leave, Hamas demands that they stay - as they care more about the optics of more Palestinian dead than they do about Palestinian rights.



  • Registered Users Posts: 569 ✭✭✭Long Sean Silver


    i told you before why we wont be taking them. they are the wrong type.



  • Registered Users Posts: 52 ✭✭Hummingbird Project


    Michael Martin the war expert is an expert on giving advice on “proportionality” in war. However I can’t help but question his motives, reasons for doing so and utter hypcricy when preaching about such theories. Firstly, his party and SF have not practiced war laws particularly the “just war clause” in 1916 or the troubles under Catholic doctrine and laterly the Geneva and Hague conventions.

    Well then if he doesn’t apply war laws in the case of his party during the so called war of independence and troubles for SF how can they preach about proportionality now? They can’t theyre utter hypocrites preaching about something when it suits their purposes but at other times desecrating those ideas when it doesn’t suit their purposes. They will say this is exactly what Israel and the west do, preach laws of war and then break them but they’re the hypocrites.

    Secondly, one would have to wonder the morality in preaching to our population and young citizens an ideology based on hatred in anti semitism. That’s the real reason for their opposition to Israeli self defence. Germany went to war in 1914 and enabled Irelands independence. They think it’s edgy, comedic and fascist like to murder Jews. It’s also historically Catholic thing to do.

    It aligns them with Spain and Nazi Germany and they glorify themselves in taking this extreme fascist position whilst also standing for Republican values of liberty. It allows them to straddle both sides of the spectrum both extreme right and liberty left and fuse the ideas or positions almost like the fusion of the atom. But it also makes them hypocrites with no integrity.

    They fight viscerally for the end of Israel by supporting Hamas and the terrorists there in some fantasy like idea that they have a voice counter the wests leadership in world affairs and diplomacy. By taking the contrarian view they set themselves above and apart from the rest of the west, get revenge on their neighbour England, and possibly save the Irish people by siding with evil Russia, China, India, Africa and Sourh America in any world war.

    But it’s evil, hatred and jealousy of the Jews primacy in the world because of their greater suffering in the holocaust than the Irish people in the famine. It’s a battle for supremacy based on suffering and politicising the famine. It’s evil and contrary to logic, justice and honour. It’s based on anti semitism and it’s disguised evil rearing it’s ugly head at the highest levels of power in Ireland.

    Finally, it’s indicative of the sinister machinations of those people who oppose Israel. They claim the Lebanese and Palestinians are the victims and outgunned. But if we look at the larger picture and see how these people move and act, we will see that they are indeed not outnumbered or outgunned. The bigger picture is this. Palestine is part of a much bigger Middle East. And that includes all the muslims countries fighting for the end of Israel. Iran, Iraq, Syria and Afghanistan amongst the majority of others.

    So Israel are largely outnumbered and outgunned. In the case of any world war, America and Europe are outnumbered and outgunned by Russia, China, India, Africa and South America. FF and SF take the side of the majority as usual in the coward like populist positions. Never the outnumbered. We can prove this by looking at the situation in Ireland. Again they create a false narrative that they Irish Catholics are the victims and outgunned by the Protestants. But this is largely untrue, catholics outnumber Protestants 5-1 in this country and it’s the easy “less work necessary” position to take. True the Protestants have English military on their side but Ireland has the USA. Which brings me to the nature of Michael martin, FF and SF politics and the nature of their populism.

    It is straight up playground bullying. Outnumbering people and always taking the side of the majority. Is it any wonder the underdog or minorities in these situations stand up to the bullying populist majority crowd? Israel is a spec on the larger Middle East. It has the right to defend itself disproportionately and with fire if necessary. Michael please don’t mislead our children with stories of perpetual victimhood. It makes you look comical and us look evil.



  • Registered Users Posts: 19,368 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump



    1/10 for trolling.

    Crawl back under your stone there like a good fella



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,206 ✭✭✭Markus Antonius


    Do you get satisfaction from contributing to the rewriting of history?

    Conveniently neglected to mention the Suez Crisis in which Israel literally tried to take over the Suez Canal and thus control the flow of goods from East to West. The Israelis have caused nothing but trouble since they planted themselves there during WW2



  • Registered Users Posts: 12,400 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Germany suspending flights due to an Iranian threat????

    Information is sketchy at the minute.

    All Eyes On Rafah



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,284 ✭✭✭howiya


    All the more reason for Israel to treat Hamas and Palestinian civilians differently.



  • Registered Users Posts: 935 ✭✭✭boetstark


    If you actually believe that Jewish people only came to those lands in ww2, not much room for discussion , the earth might just be flat 🤣



  • Registered Users Posts: 569 ✭✭✭Long Sean Silver


    IDF will kill anyone it suspects of being a terrorist. it is dealing with a death cult in HAMISIS and has little choice. i can see many, many more innocents paying an awful price here. this is exactly what HAMISIS want btw.

    when enough blood is spilt, things will settle down. for a while ...



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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,741 ✭✭✭Augme



    Pursued political and diplomatic route. They have done, for decades. And Israel have still consistently tried to exterminate Palestinians. Israel has no interest in finding an amicable solution snd finding a two state solution. They are inly interested in wiping out Palestinians.



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