Taxing a new car

jtkpenguin · 07-10-2023 11:10am #1

Hi guys,

Please settle a discussion between our family....

We're looking at buying a brand new Hyundai Tucson from a dealer but won't pick it up until next March/April.

So my question: is the tax due from the 1st of January for the year & we just have to loose out on those couple of months? Or is the tax done from the month we actually buy the car?

Hope that's clear?

Tia

Jtkpenguin

07-10-2023 11:14am

It's from when you buy the car

Dirty Nails · 07-10-2023 11:50am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058317152/taxing-a-new-car

Curious as to why would you register it in Jan if you're not getting it until April?

Jim_Hodge · 07-10-2023 11:53am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121204881#Comment_121204881

Technically no. It's from when the car is registered in your name.

elperello · 07-10-2023 12:00pm

The garage will register the car and you will pay the motor tax back dated to the first of the month you collect it.

bazz26 · 07-10-2023 12:41pm

It will be from the beginning of the month in which the car is registered in your name.

07-10-2023 12:45pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121205032#Comment_121205032

Which usually happens when you hand over money. I.e. buy

Jim_Hodge · 07-10-2023 1:10pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121205233#Comment_121205233

I've paid for and collected cars in early Feb which were registered in late Jan as snow etc delayed me picking them up. I had motor tax from Jan.

Let's not be pedantic. It's from when it's registered to you.

07-10-2023 2:51pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121205343#Comment_121205343

I'm not the one being pedantic.

Bought a car this summer. It was registered to me in June. I didn't have to buy tax till August 😁

Miscreant · 07-10-2023 5:22pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121205733#Comment_121205733

Was it new?

mickdw · 07-10-2023 5:29pm

You or garage can also declare a new car off the road immediately in the case of it being registered towards the end of a month for example and not being picked up for a day or 2.

Gumbo · 07-10-2023 5:38pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058317152/taxing-a-new-car

Motor tax is due from the first day of the month you register it. So if you register on 31st January, you owe from 1st January.

FishOnABike · 07-10-2023 5:53pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121206472#Comment_121206472

...and if you register it any time during April, you owe tax from 1st April.

Gumbo · 07-10-2023 6:04pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121206549#Comment_121206549

Yes. As per the post.

jtkpenguin · 08-10-2023 11:46am

Thank you all for your comments, much appreciated....

I get that the tax is due from the 1st day of the month you register it....

We're going to the dealership next wk to place an order & hand over the €1000 deposit for a brand new Tucson, but dealer has already told us these cars aren't going to be available until March/April so we don't have any choice in when we collect it.

family members think that the dealer will register the car in our name as soon as the order is placed, therefore it's tax will be due from January regardless of the fact that it's out of our control that we can't collect it until 2/3 months later....

I don't agree, I think that if the cars are only arriving here in March/April they will be registered for tax in March/April... Please correct me if I'm wrong

tia

Jtkpenguin

Jim_Hodge · 08-10-2023 11:56am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121208841#Comment_121208841

You're not wrong.

jtkpenguin · 08-10-2023 11:59am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121208889#Comment_121208889

Appreciate that, have had a serious problem trying to see how they could tax the car when it's not physically in the country

08-10-2023 12:03pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121205343#Comment_121205343

It's not. You shouldn't have had to pay for January. Dealer should have submitted Part B of an RF150. And there's a non-use section in Part E of the RF100.

User1998 · 08-10-2023 3:48pm

Just a reminder that they’re spending close to €50,000 on this car so I wouldn’t worry about a couple of euro in tax.

Buffman · 09-10-2023 9:25am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121208841#Comment_121208841

Yes, you're correct. For obvious reasons it's impossible to register a vehicle that doesn't actually exist yet. And you can't tax a car that isn't registered.

I assume the family member involved doesn't own a car already because this is all basic enough stuff.

R.O.R · 09-10-2023 12:54pm

If there's a chassis number before the end of March and the car isn't due to arrive to the dealer until Mid April, they will try to register it before the end of Q1 to hit / exceed target.

If that's the case, ask the dealer to send you the RF100 when it's registered. It takes around 20 seconds to declare it off the road so you don't end up paying tax for the whole of March. Not a big amount, but you're going to be paying enough tax eventually - better in your pocket than the government.

https://www.motarviews.ie/ORD/login - Reg an PIN are needed. On a brand new car, PIN is the last 6 digits of the chassis number, which you'll get from the RF100. Has to be declared off the road for at least 3 months, but once you get the car, log in to motortax again and override the off road declaration by taxing it from the start of whichever month it is.

09-10-2023 12:59pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121209874#Comment_121209874

The stink of jealously Jesus Christ.

what about if they’re paying €50k for their car? Doesn’t mean they should pay tax they don’t owe.

hoodie6029 · 09-10-2023 4:09pm

Sweet suffering Jesus, what has become of this forum today? ‘Will I have to pay tax on my car before it’s built?’ and another thread where the OP is wondering if he is being scammed or if he has met the genuine wallet inspector!

zg3409 · 09-10-2023 4:21pm

Note don't believe delivery dates from sakes people. They may know today that date won't be met but intend to string you along.

Gumbo · 09-10-2023 4:37pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121208841#Comment_121208841

Dealer won’t register the car until it lands. Not when you order!

Gumbo · 09-10-2023 4:40pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121213854#Comment_121213854

That’s not how I read that post. Maybe it’s your deposition.

I read it as “I’m spending €50k on the car, I’m not gonna worry about €20 tax that I may not have to pay”.

Nothing jealous there IMO.

DaveyDave · 09-10-2023 4:57pm

It doesn't matter how long it takes to deliver a car, it's taxed when it lands and is handed over to you. I paid tax at my dealer when collecting the car after a 6 month wait. Plenty of people waiting 12 months for a car last year.

User1998 · 10-10-2023 3:08am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121213854#Comment_121213854

Not jealous at all, I’ve spent more previously😂

Atlantic Dawn · 10-10-2023 3:15am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121215001#Comment_121215001

It needs a number plate before it can be motor taxed. If it gets a number plate before you bought it you are not the first owner and should seek compensation if it's a "new" car you bought.

Edit...I may be wrong in point you are trying to make, sorry if I am.

R.O.R · 10-10-2023 12:54pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121216761#Comment_121216761

If the car has a chassis number and a birth cert, it can be registered - wherever it is in the world. Dealers or importers/manufacturers may want to register the car for targets, before it arrives in to the country. It can be registered to the person buying it, and not delivered for 2-3 weeks - that doesn't mean it's no longer a "new car" - still has delivery mileage on the clock and the person buying it will still be the first driver (excluding people who've moved it around the place).

It's unusual for cars to be registered before they are in the country, but it does happen. The preference is for the vehicle to arrive to the dealership before it's registered, just incase it's not what was ordered - not straightforward to de-register a vehicle. Being registered in the month before collection is most likely if collecting at the start of a month, and especially at the start of a quarter.

mickdw · 10-10-2023 8:32pm

Ford dealer did exactly this on a car my parents bought and declared it off the road until pickup.

I was alittle suspicious but it was legit.

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