Creche fees. How much are you paying?

Zinoviev · 11-07-2023 2:25pm

The prices mentioned here for Child Care are absolutely horrific. I do not know how Irish families function. Married to a German and living here we have one Child. He is 1 year old and in Kindergarten 08:00- 16:00 Monday to Friday. It costs 160€ per month!

tom1ie · 12-07-2023 9:11pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120836261#Comment_120836261

Lol! €160 PM!

How is the price so low? Is it the government that provides the crèche and crèche staff or do the government pay private companies so prices are kept low?

fits · 31-08-2023 6:48am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120843611#Comment_120843611

The rates are similar in Finland or Sweden. The costs here are staggering really.

CPTM · 31-08-2023 7:08am

My one year old got a high temperature last Friday afternoon but it was the final week where we had to fulfill the hours for NCS so I had to leave her in there for an extra 40 minutes or the funding would have been reduced. I was literally sitting outside counting down the minutes while she was teething inside. I'm still very annoyed about it. It shouldn't be like this.

tom1ie · 31-08-2023 3:24pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121049745#Comment_121049745

What way is the service paid for in these countries though?

The parents pay €160 PM but does the government pay the rest? Are the costs to run crèches lower in these countries, ie lower insurance, lower wages, lower electricity, lower food costs etc?

Is the rate of tax higher in these countries and that tax then pays for these crèche services?

fits · 31-08-2023 3:35pm

Of course the government pays the rest. Tax is a bit higher but not that much higher.

tom1ie · 31-08-2023 8:59pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121052028#Comment_121052028

How much higher is tax?

For example could we raise tax by 1% and cover the cost of this- or is it that wages, insurance, electricity are just extortionate in this country?

fits · 31-08-2023 9:06pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121053539#Comment_121053539

I dunno. You can google this stuff as well as I can.

salmocab · 31-08-2023 9:21pm

The government here has started paying some of the fees as most know, they also pay a monthly fee that is reasonably big but they have to jump through a lot of hoops and agree to things that they may not like. Not everyone has signed up to that. There is talk of providers doing a 3 day work stoppage in the near future, they are really not happy with the way things are going, the admin is becoming obscene and pointlessly complicated.

tom1ie · 31-08-2023 9:43pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121053626#Comment_121053626

Yeah so I’ve heard alright.

I mean the whole thing seems a bit half hearted from the government- just come out and say tax is going up by 1.5 % to cover the cost of crèche fees for parents- but at the same time ensuring crèche fees don’t go up to absorb the government money.

So I suppose a guaranteed maximum amount to be paid for parents.

There’d be enough working parents in the country to ensure this is a vote winner.

tom1ie · 10-10-2023 9:57am

Folks does anyone know if this 25% cut in childcare costs (supposedly in the budget) will translate over to private childcare crèches (which I imagine is the majority of crèches in Ireland?)

Also has anyone got a list to public crèches in Ireland for toddlers- 18 months old?

Thanks.

sekond · 10-10-2023 10:23am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121217248#Comment_121217248

There are no public creches in Ireland. All creches are either private or community/not-for profit. Any cut in childcare costs (I'd imagine it will be through the NCS if it happens) would apply to all creches whether they are private or community.

tom1ie · 10-10-2023 10:27am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121217332#Comment_121217332

Ah ok that makes sense.

It was just the way it was worded on the 9 news last night that had me scratching my head a bit.

elefant · 10-10-2023 10:40am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120836261#Comment_120836261

I'm in the Netherlands. We do two days a week at the moment, and it's around €550 a month after the government subsidy. It would be around a thousand a month without the subsidy. Lower earners get a higher subsidy, but I don't think it would ever get close to as low as what you have in Germany.

It's very hard to even get a place in daycares in the bigger cities here. We had our names down at probably 10+ daycares nearby from the time we found out we were expecting, and were thankful to get a spot in one around a month before the due date.

Papav3r · 10-10-2023 2:22pm

Looks like the next 25% cut won't be in place until September 2024.

Not sure why this can't be instant. They made all the changes required last year to handle the extra payments coming through the NCS. So the fact they're waiting until 2024 is piss take. It's practically budget 2025 at that stage.

Creche fees. How much are you paying?

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